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Old 12-29-2011   #121
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Holmes will make the roster next year. The Cowboys obviously thinks he's worth keeping otherwise they wouldn't have him active on game days while he's injured. Radway would have made this team this year (per Jerry) had he not gotten injured and Harris will also improve and has ST value. Holley and Ogletree will be the odd men out.
I guess time will tell.

I really don't see Holley being cut.

Otree will compete for the #3 job if Robinson ends up leaving. If Robinson stays I can definitely see Otree being the odd man out, though. The thing is that Harris, Holmes and Radway are all very raw as NFL WRs. It took Otree 2 years to see the field in this offense. Dez still hasn't figured out most of it. Robinson quickly adjusted to it but he has been in the league for 5 years and was playing in a very similar system in the preseason.

Garrett seems to need players who are a bit seasoned to understand his offense. Maybe Robinson will be better at getting players up to speed quicker than Sherman was through the offseason.

One thing I've learned on this board is there are just some guys who become targets. Bennett and Otree are targets on this board so anything they bring to the team is quickly dismissed. If Otree isn't on our team I am pretty sure he will be on someone else's team and will have a decent career as a #3 receiver.
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Old 12-29-2011   #122
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I agree. I thought the Eagles signing Jason Babin this offseason was a meaningless acquisition. Instead, the guy is leading (or near leading) the NFL in sacks with 18. I was wrong on what his impact would be.

The painful part... they signed him to a 5 year 28 million dollar deal --- very similar to what we just extended Orlando Scandrick for.

Who got the better value?

I do feel that these slightly aged pass rushers are the type of players that it is ok to go after in Free Agency.
Yep, the Eagles really scored with Babin. I am convinced that he is juicing, though. I've never seen another player with that career trajectory. He was a first round pick and averaged about 4-5 sacks a year untill he gets 12.5 at age 30 then 18 sacks in 15 games at age 31. Something is fishy here - I think it is only a matter of time before he is caught.

I do agree that vet pass rushers are good value in FA. Andre Carter has had a pretty good year in NE serving this role, too.

I am hoping for a deal with Osi at a reasonable level of compensation.

The deal with Oscan is stupid - someone take daddy's check book away from Stephen. This is another classic case of nepotism here. The kid is in over his head. At least he recognizes that he should hire himself a proper GM when daddy retires and the franchise is put in his hands.
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I like the young Harris.
There's no right way to do the wrong thing.

To compete for the playoffs, Dallas has to improve here: Only four sacks against Eli Manning over the past six games!
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I guess time will tell.

I really don't see Holley being cut.

Otree will compete for the #3 job if Robinson ends up leaving. If Robinson stays I can definitely see Otree being the odd man out, though. The thing is that Harris, Holmes and Radway are all very raw as NFL WRs. It took Otree 2 years to see the field in this offense. Dez still hasn't figured out most of it. Robinson quickly adjusted to it but he has been in the league for 5 years and was playing in a very similar system in the preseason.

Garrett seems to need players who are a bit seasoned to understand his offense. Maybe Robinson will be better at getting players up to speed quicker than Sherman was through the offseason.

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I agree with you that O-tree is one of the whipping boys on this team, but some of it is deserved. I will say that he does have a little upside to his game and he is still young. Holley on the other hand is the oldest WR on the team and will never be anything more than a ST player. He has had some nice moments this year but he's not a player that has a high ceiling. If it came down to Ogletree or Holley I would definitely go with Ogletree because of that reason. IMO, they will both be gone. I'm really looking forward to what the Cowboys have in these young guys like Radway and Holmes.
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The deal with Oscan is stupid - someone take daddy's check book away from Stephen. This is another classic case of nepotism here. The kid is in over his head. At least he recognizes that he should hire himself a proper GM when daddy retires and the franchise is put in his hands.
How do you know this is true?
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also Sean Lissemore will get a nice payday this offseason.

I would LOVE if they pulled a trent cole on him.
What does this mean?
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Old 12-29-2011   #127
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Nick Foles from Arizona?


Oh god I hope not. He's a statue out there.
whooops run DallasDomination, Foles is one of Hos's Favorite pet cats and from his alma mater college. Here he comes, run DD
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Old 12-29-2011   #128
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I haven't read the thread, but I am betting that guy is taking some heat, and rightfully so. Matt Forte and DeSean Jackson?

Caveat emptor.
I will bite, what does daveat emptor mean?
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Yes I'm on OB and yes most of his info is usually legit. That being said, I also have a hard time believing the team would be targeting Forte or D jackson. Doesn't Jackson have money problems of his own?
Eagles WR DeSean Jackson is said to be having Serious money issues. Speaking to the media on Monday following his benching over the weekend in an Eagles loss to the Cardinals, Jackson addressed the media and referenced a tough situation which he’ll have to face like a man.
http://jocksandstilettojill.com/2011...rew-rosenhaus/
That situation is allegedly owing hundreds of thousands of dollars to his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. Jackson is said to even have a credit card that is either co-signed by the agent or Jackson is a signer to his account.


“From what I’m told, [Jackson] owes Drew Rosenhaus a lot of money. . . . We’re talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. Is he broke? I don’t know how you define broke, but I know when he signs his new deal he will owe Drew Rosenhaus a lot of money.”
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I will bite, what does daveat emptor mean?
Buyer beware.
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Buyer beware.
whew, oh ok, thats not bad then, at least i didnt step into it like i do sometimes
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Another RB, better go another LB instead.


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You couldn't be more wrong. As a new member, I wouldn't expect you to understand.
He's actually not wrong at all.. and this thread is a perfect example of that.
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Jackson is staying with the Eagles.

" At least I have a pretty wife..."
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What does this mean?
Trent Cole was drafted in the fifth round.

Towards the end of his second year, he signed a 5 year 26 million dollar extension.

So, basically, they're getting 9 years of production out of him (his entire prime), for under 30 million dollars total.

And he's a multiple time all-pro.

I hate the eagles, but I love their front office.
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