Jerry Jones: "our defensive front is one of the strengths of our team" - Page 3 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

**Idgit** · 01-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Dallas

So homers would be?? Sorry...I am lost as who our blind homers are. I do know our users who support the club and many of its players, but I do not know any BLIND homers.

Age isn't an excuse to go off on a tangent and alienate oneself from the community.

A line in the sand per se? Interesting....

They won't last long here...but it will be funny to see.

I think when people say 'blind homers' they're referring to Crazy Cowboy.

bbgun · 01-24-2012

Then I shudder to think what he feels is a "weakness."

Gaede · 01-24-2012

Jerry's not giving a smoke screen. The idea that he would, and could, manipulate people so early in the draft process is completely ridiculous.

What he says is what he believes. This is twice now we've heard the sentiment, from the top 2 ppl in the organization.Throw in Jerry's props to Costa and it feels just like last offseason and the one before that, where the season ends and organization suddenly feels that time is all that's needed to heal obvious wounds (such as C, DE, DT, OG) and draft picks and free agents are not needed to bolster the teams worst units. That the only problem was injuries, or poor coaching, or not enough of an offseason. A scary thought, for sure. But I'd bet we're looking at getting a flashy player who plays a noticeable position (such as CB or OLB) before drafting another boring lineman in round 1.

Most teams build from the inside out. Start with the line. We're the opposite. That's why our pass rush has been complete garbage for the longest time (we never invest in the guys up front) and that's why our pass protection has been garbage for the longest time.

JackWagon · 01-24-2012

No ... jerry actually believes it.

Raiders 2 ... Electric boogaloo

sonnyboy · 01-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

Jerry's not giving a smoke screen. The idea that he would, and could, manipulate people so early in the draft process is completely ridiculous.

What he says is what he believes. This is twice now we've heard the sentiment, from the top 2 ppl in the organization. A scary thought, for sure. But I'd bet we're looking at getting a flashy player who plays a noticeable position (such as CB or OLB) before drafting another boring lineman in round 1.

Most teams build from the inside out. Start with the line. We're the opposite. That's why our pass rush has been complete garbage for the longest time (we never invest in the guys up front) and that's why our pass protection has been garbage for the longest time.

Maybe Jerry and Stepen are right. Maybe they are echoing the sentiments of our coaches.

This defense finished 16th in points allowed(21.6), 23rd in passing yards allowed(244.1), 17th in intereptions with (15), 7th in rushing yards allowed(99.1) and 7th in sacks with(42).

Would it not stand to reason that since we ranked in the top quartile in stopping the run and rushing the passer, that the front 7 was not the problem?
Now when you factor in that we almost finished in the bottom quartile in passing yards allowed and middle of the pack in ints, that our secondary was?

I'm not saying our front seven is with out concern. Our starting ROLB is not under contract. James and Brookings don't look to be in the teams future plans, so we have a 2nd yr player with little playing experience, perhaps slated to start at one ILB spot.

I like Ratliff and believe Brent and Lissemore show promise, but Spears is in simply an average player and Coleman not so much so. Hatcher is a tough call. Worth keeping because he's under contract at a reasonable number.

But I believe that's one of the keys here. Who's is and isn't under contract and where did the poorest play come from. Where are the true weak spots.

Because it's all about prioritization of availible resources. CB and FS probably need to take prescedent over any front seven concern.

visionary · 01-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Fletch

It just might. All he does is talk about the optimists in here and ridicule.

if you are falling from a 20 story building and by the time you are at the 10th floor you still think that

you will not hit the pavement

and everyone who told you not to jump off the building or you will hit the pavement is wrong

that is not optimistic

it is something else entirely

Woods · 01-24-2012

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Originally Posted by sonnyboy

Maybe Jerry and Stepen are right. Maybe they are echoing the sentiments of our coaches.

This defense finished 16th in points allowed(21.6), 23rd in passing yards allowed(244.1), 17th in intereptions with (15), 7th in rushing yards allowed(99.1) and 7th in sacks with(42).

Would it not stand to reason that since we ranked in the top quartile in stopping the run and rushing the passer, that the front 7 was not the problem?
Now when you factor in that we almost finished in the bottom quartile in passing yards allowed and middle of the pack in ints, that our secondary was?

I'm not saying our front seven is with out concern. Our starting ROLB is not under contract. James and Brookings don't look to be in the teams future plans, so we have a 2nd yr player with little playing experience, perhaps slated to start at one ILB spot.

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You make too much sense.

I think we all agree that we would like more consistent pressure from our front 7, but our more significant weakness is our Secondary relatively speaking.

Given we have finite resources, and Newman is a goner, that has to be a priority - along with figuring out what to do with Spencer.

sonnyboy · 01-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Woods

You make too much sense.

I think we all agree that we would like more consistent pressure from our front 7, but our more significant weakness is our Secondary relatively speaking.

Given we have finite resources, and Newman is a goner, that has to be a priority - along with figuring out what to do with Spencer.

It's so interesting that you used those exact words.

I feel that way as does every fan in almost every game or part of any season. I've had debates with fans here who wanted more consistent pressure in years we were leading or close to leading the league in sacks.

It's never enough!

I'd bet dollars to donuts that most every idiot in this thread bashing the FO over it's comments on the front seven have NO IDEA WHAT THE ACTUAL STATISTICS ARE.

AMERICAS_FAN · 01-24-2012

Can someone - anyone - in Mobile please throw a ball as hard as they can at Jerry's head? Please?

bbgun · 01-24-2012

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Originally Posted by AMERICAS_FAN

Can someone - anyone - in Mobile please throw a ball as hard as they can at Jerry's head? Please?

If I see one more thread that starts with the words "Jerry says," I will not be responsible for my actions.

jterrell · 01-24-2012

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Originally Posted by Aven8

Now we know he's bluffing. Ie. We are happy at WR, insert TO. We will not be making any trades, insert Roy Williams. We love our Oline, insert 4 new starters. Etc, etc.

Exactly! You never ask a GM to tell you anything between the time their season ends and the first game of the new season. It is their job to lie. And with Jerry he is a salesman first and foremost. He'd sell water to a well.

What was he supposed to do? Say at 14 we are taking the best front 7 guy available? Say my top free agent target is Mario Williams?

He can be honest at DB because everyone already knows we are cutting TNew and have Abe Elam as a free agent. That is a price issue thus no competitive advantage comes into play.

Beast_from_East · 01-24-2012

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Originally Posted by dboy214

last part of the video. jerry echoes stephen jones thoughts from a few weeks ago about the defensive line.

I kind of feel sorry for the guy, he is cleary delusional at this point. I think 15 years of losing has just taken its toll on the guy and he is just not thinking clearly any more.