Ryan Broyles - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Verdict · 01-23-2012

Ryan Broyles (WR from OU) suffered a season ending injury and will undoubtably fall in the draft as a result. His production in college is unquestionable. He will probably will not be able to participate in the physical part of the combine.

If he were healthy, I think he would make an ideal "slot" receiver for the Cowboys. He would probably be much like Carter in that he would have a limited impact in 2012 because he will not be fully healed. But we might get really good bang for the buck on him if we select him, which will be much lower than it would have been pre injury. He would have undoubtably had a first round grade before the injury.

robert70x7 · 01-23-2012

I looked at him yesterday. Another option is Marquis Maze out of Alabama, they seem to be similar but Maze's numbers don't jump out like Broyles. After doing some research on him, I realized that he had some red flags in terms of some off field problems that I was surpsied to hear about.

I think the Cowboys need to re-sign Robinson and maybe give Radway one more shot to be the #4 guy this year. With the emergence of Welker over the past couple of years, all teams are definitely looking for someone in that mold.

rkell87 · 01-23-2012

i agree with everything except that he would have been a 1st rounder, there is no way. he would have had a shot in the second, most likely a third. you don't draft WR in the 1st or 2nd to be a slot, if teams thought he could play outside as a legit 2 he might have been in the 2nd. as it stands right now he is 6th-undrafted but can improve after medical evals

robert70x7 · 01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by rkell87

i agree with everything except that he would have been a 1st rounder, there is no way. he would have had a shot in the second, most likely a third. you don't draft WR in the 1st or 2nd to be a slot, if teams thought he could play outside as a legit 2 he might have been in the 2nd. as it stands right now he is 6th-undrafted but can improve after medical evals

If he's there for the Cowboys at 6, I'm screaming if they don't take him. He'll stock will rise once teams realize that he's healthy. He'll go in the 4th-5th.

Verdict · 01-23-2012

One draft source has him listed as the 178th pick (5th round). Although he does not have blazing speed he always seems to get open, especially in critical situations and has great hands. He gets separation and would be an outstanding possession receiver, IMHO.

He reminds you a little bit of a Jerry Rice type of guy, more than Wes Welker, as he is not as sturdily built as Wes Welker, or Steve Smith (Panthers). I think he would be a steal, in the 4th or below.

Risen Star · 01-23-2012

There is a zero percent chance that Broyles goes undrafted.

Verdict · 01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by rkell87

i agree with everything except that he would have been a 1st rounder, there is no way. he would have had a shot in the second, most likely a third. you don't draft WR in the 1st or 2nd to be a slot, if teams thought he could play outside as a legit 2 he might have been in the 2nd. as it stands right now he is 6th-undrafted but can improve after medical evals

I realize that sometimes college production doesn't equate to success on the pro level, but according to some statistics he is THE MOST prolific player in the HISTORY of college football. There is no way of knowing what round he would have been taken in, if healthy, but it is hard for me to fathom that he wouldn't have been a first rounder.

rkell87 · 01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Verdict

I realize that sometimes college production doesn't equate to success on the pro level, but according to some statistics he is THE MOST prolific player in the HISTORY of college football. There is no way of knowing what round he would have been taken in, if healthy, but it is hard for me to fathom that he wouldn't have been a first rounder.

these are the only guys under 6' to be taken in round one since 1980, you will notice that(especially recently) most of the guys on that list make up for their height in speed and broyles doesn't have that. you also notice that many of the guys on the list have under preformed for the spot they were drafted in. again, there was no way he was going in the first and I didn't even hear talk of him being regarded as a first rounder before he was injured.

if he proves healthy in march he will go 4-5 range and if his rehab isn't as far along as teams would like he will go lower

Verdict · 01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by rkell87

these are the only guys under 6' to be taken in round one since 1980, you will notice that(especially recently) most of the guys on that list make up for their height in speed and broyles doesn't have that. you also notice that many of the guys on the list have under preformed for the spot they were drafted in. again, there was no way he was going in the first and I didn't even hear talk of him being regarded as a first rounder before he was injured.

if he proves healthy in march he will go 4-5 range and if his rehab isn't as far along as teams would like he will go lower

What were Jerry Rice's measurables, and how did drafting him work out for the 49'ers?

tm1119 · 01-23-2012

Really depends on whether Robinson is back or not(I think he will be). If Robinson is back then the only way I take a WR if that person is also a prolific KR/PR guy.

joseephuss · 01-23-2012

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What were Jerry Rice's measurables, and how did drafting him work out for the 49'ers?

Jerry Rice was 6'-2", which is taller than every guy on that list.

Broyles is good. I think he is better than other OU products who have entered the NFL over the last several years. He is more than a product of the system although that system is partially why is numbers are so prolific. I didn't see him as a 1st round talent before the injury. He will drop due to that injury. Dallas does not need to draft him unless he is the best player available and there are no other close options. I think there will be some good options available in every round for Dallas.

rkell87 · 01-23-2012

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What were Jerry Rice's measurables, and how did drafting him work out for the 49'ers?

lol that kinda back fired on ya, yeah?

it's ok man, he is good, he may even end up one of the better WR of this class when all is said and done, but he wasn't going to be picked in round 1, and that is ok, plenty of good WRs that were 2nd round talent.

batman36 · 01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by tm1119

Really depends on whether Robinson is back or not(I think he will be). If Robinson is back then the only way I take a WR if that person is also a prolific KR/PR guy.

Broyles was a dynamic punt returner at OU. If he is healthy, I'd like to see him in Dallas. I've watched a lot of games in Norman, OK. over the years, and Broyles is one of the most electrifying players I've ever seen as a Sooner.

Verdict · 01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by rkell87

lol that kinda back fired on ya, yeah?

it's ok man, he is good, he may even end up one of the better WR of this class when all is said and done, but he wasn't going to be picked in round 1, and that is ok, plenty of good WRs that were 2nd round talent.

I was referring more to Rice's build and speed. Rice didn't have blazing speed, and was more slightly built than Welker or Steve Smith. I never really considered Rice's height to be much of an issue because his routes were so precise and crisp that he was usually "open".

Verdict · 01-23-2012

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Originally Posted by joseephuss

Jerry Rice was 6'-2", which is taller than every guy on that list.

Broyles is good. I think he is better than other OU products who have entered the NFL over the last several years. He is more than a product of the system although that system is partially why is numbers are so prolific. I didn't see him as a 1st round talent before the injury. He will drop due to that injury. Dallas does not need to draft him unless he is the best player available and there are no other close options. I think there will be some good options available in every round for Dallas.

It is true that OU WR's numbers are partially due to the system, but much like DeMarco Murry the year before .... OU was much less prolific on offense without Broyles.... They didn't look like the same team.