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[cowboyjoe]

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NAME POS HEIGHT
WEIGHT
SCHOOL GRADE

01
Andrew Luck
QB 6-4 235 Stanford 9.0
02
Morris Claiborne
CB 6-0 185 Louisiana State 8.5 J
03
David DeCastro
OG 6-5 310 Stanford 8.5
04
Trent Richardson
RB 5-11 224 Alabama 8.5
05
Michael Brockers
DT 6-6 306 Louisiana State 8.0 D J
06
Matt Kalil
OT 6-7 295 Southern California 8.0 B J
07
Robert Griffin III
QB 6-2 220 Baylor 7.5 J
08
Quinton Coples
DE 6-6 285 North Carolina 7.5 C U
09
Devon Still
DT 6-5 310 Penn State 7.5 C
10
Justin Blackmon
WR 6-1 215 Oklahoma State 7.5 C
11
Cordy Glenn
OG 6-5 348 Georgia 7.5
12
Alameda Ta'amu
DT 6-3 337 Washington 7.5
13 Kendall Wright
WR 5-10 190 Baylor 7.5
14
Orson Charles
TE 6-3 241 Georgia 7.5
15
Mark Barron
SS 6-2 218 Alabama 7.0 T
16
Dont'a Hightower
ILB 6-4 260 Alabama 7.0 J X
17
Dre Kirkpatrick
CB 6-3 192 Alabama 7.0 J
18
Luke Kuechly
ILB 6-3 237 Boston College 7.0 J
19
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[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by cowboyjoe

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...epartment.html
NAME POS HEIGHT
WEIGHT
SCHOOL GRADE

01
Andrew Luck
QB 6-4 235 Stanford 9.0
02
Morris Claiborne
CB 6-0 185 Louisiana State 8.5 J
03
David DeCastro
OG 6-5 310 Stanford 8.5
04
Trent Richardson
RB 5-11 224 Alabama 8.5
05
Michael Brockers
DT 6-6 306 Louisiana State 8.0 D J
06
Matt Kalil
OT 6-7 295 Southern California 8.0 B J
07
Robert Griffin III
QB 6-2 220 Baylor 7.5 J
08
Quinton Coples
DE 6-6 285 North Carolina 7.5 C U
09
Devon Still
DT 6-5 310 Penn State 7.5 C
10
Justin Blackmon
WR 6-1 215 Oklahoma State 7.5 C
11
Cordy Glenn
OG 6-5 348 Georgia 7.5
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Alameda Ta'amu
DT 6-3 337 Washington 7.5
13 Kendall Wright
WR 5-10 190 Baylor 7.5
14
Orson Charles
TE 6-3 241 Georgia 7.5
15
Mark Barron
SS 6-2 218 Alabama 7.0 T
16
Dont'a Hightower
ILB 6-4 260 Alabama 7.0 J X
17
Dre Kirkpatrick
CB 6-3 192 Alabama 7.0 J
18
Luke Kuechly
ILB 6-3 237 Boston College 7.0 J
19
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If Decastro really is the 3rd best player in the draft no way does he last until 14

[jnday]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

If Decastro really is the 3rd best player in the draft no way does he last until 14

You know that we both have been told that guard is a position that shouldn't be drafted as high as 14 . The Cards and Chiefs really like him . All scouting services like him . We have been told by certain posters that everybody is wrong about him . It has been said that we can get the same quality in later rounds . Do you think this rating could change minds ?

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

If Decastro really is the 3rd best player in the draft no way does he last until 14

He doesn't rank them that way, he's not saying DeCastro is going to be the 3rd best. He's saying DeCastro's game is the 3rd closest, in this class, to being NFL ready.

That's why you see a RB at #4, no one is going to draft Richardson in the Top 5.

[supercowboy8]

My boy Hightower at 16, he is the best allround 3-4 SOLB in the draft

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

My boy Hightower at 16, he is the best allround 3-4 SOLB in the draft

He also has DeCastro at 3, whom you hate with the passion of a thousand suns.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by TheCount

He also has DeCastro at 3, whom you hate with the passion of a thousand suns.

When have I ever said I hate decastro. I never said that. Decastro is the best OG in this draft. The only thing I have ever said was if jerry signs nicks then spending a 1st on a og wouldn't be the best move when you need a starting OLB.

Also I use my mind and look at the history of the draft and play the odds. The history and odds show that the chance are far better to draft a starting OG in the 2nd or 3rd than to find a day one starting 3-4 SOLB in the 2nd or 3rd.

I wouldn't hate it we drafted decastro I just dont think it would be the best move since this defense is lacking a passrush.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

When have I ever said I hate decastro. I never said that. Decastro is the best OG in this draft. The only thing I have ever said was if jerry signs nicks then spending a 1st on a og wouldn't be the best move when you need a starting OLB.

Also I use my mind and look at the history of the draft and play the odds. The history and odds show that the chance are far better to draft a starting OG in the 2nd or 3rd than to find a day one starting 3-4 SOLB in the 2nd or 3rd.

I wouldn't hate it we drafted decastro I just dont think it would be the best move since this defense is lacking a passrush.

It was a joke. I actually meant to poke you about Barron being 15th, but I blew it.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

When have I ever said I hate decastro. I never said that. Decastro is the best OG in this draft. The only thing I have ever said was if jerry signs nicks then spending a 1st on a og wouldn't be the best move when you need a starting OLB.

Also I use my mind and look at the history of the draft and play the odds. The history and odds show that the chance are far better to draft a starting OG in the 2nd or 3rd than to find a day one starting 3-4 SOLB in the 2nd or 3rd.

I wouldn't hate it we drafted decastro I just dont think it would be the best move since this defense is lacking a passrush.

and most of us think protecting Romo is more important.

[dallasfaniac]

What's the date on this, there's a couple players missing? Stephen Hill, Jonathan Massaquoi, Bobby Massie, Terrell Manning, Janzen Jackson, Cliff Harris, Josh Robinson, etc.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

When have I ever said I hate decastro. I never said that. Decastro is the best OG in this draft. The only thing I have ever said was if jerry signs nicks then spending a 1st on a og wouldn't be the best move when you need a starting OLB.

Also I use my mind and look at the history of the draft and play the odds. The history and odds show that the chance are far better to draft a starting OG in the 2nd or 3rd than to find a day one starting 3-4 SOLB in the 2nd or 3rd.

I wouldn't hate it we drafted decastro I just dont think it would be the best move since this defense is lacking a passrush.

I am not asking this to be disrespectfull in any way . Don't you think we all want the great pass-rusher that you do ? When will the pass rusher crowd realize that there is not an elite pass rusher in this draft ? There are some prospects that will make good players , but Spencer is a good player , he is just not a great pass rusher . The prospects in the draft this year will not be an upgrade . Why use the 14 th pick on a position that is a known weakness in this draft class ?

[Woods]

Originally Posted by jnday

I am not asking this to be disrespectfull in any way . Don't you think we all want the great pass-rusher that you do ? When will the pass rusher crowd realize that there is not an elite pass rusher in this draft ? There are some prospects that will make good players , but Spencer is a good player , he is just not a great pass rusher . The prospects in the draft this year will not be an upgrade . Why use the 14 th pick on a position that is a known weakness in this draft class ?

I agree with you. I think we can, however, find a situational pass rusher to help out in this draft, however.

Someone who can help apply pressure and generate some sacks.

I don't think that guy has to be a Round 1 pick either.

The issue with this Draft is that I don't really see any must have DL or LBs who are realisic as of today at 14. As for a guy like Coples, it doesn't seem like he'll be there at 14 regardless.

I think DeCastro would probably be the best player we could possibly land at 14. And if we trade down a few spots (like 2-4), maybe Glenn. For the time being I'm not including J Jenkins and Fitzpatrick given their off field histories. I'm curious as to how the team views Poe at NT.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by jnday

I am not asking this to be disrespectfull in any way . Don't you think we all want the great pass-rusher that you do ? When will the pass rusher crowd realize that there is not an elite pass rusher in this draft ? There are some prospects that will make good players , but Spencer is a good player , he is just not a great pass rusher . The prospects in the draft this year will not be an upgrade . Why use the 14 th pick on a position that is a known weakness in this draft class ?

There are good passbrushers in this draft. If spenc range walks why open up another hole on the defense. Any player you get in the 2nd to replace Spencer isn't going to be a upgrade. I can find an upgrade at og in the 2nd and an upgrade at olb in Upshaw, Ingram, and or Hightower.

Cowboys offense had the lead in the 4th quarter of 5 of their 8 losses with his OL. The defense gave up those wins.
I want to upgrade this OL as much as ev ryone else but I can do that by adding Nicks and a OG in the 2nd.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

There are good passbrushers in this draft. If spenc range walks why open up another hole on the defense. Any player you get in the 2nd to replace Spencer isn't going to be a upgrade. I can find an upgrade at og in the 2nd and an upgrade at olb in Upshaw, Ingram, and or Hightower.

Cowboys offense had the lead in the 4th quarter of 5 of their 8 losses with his OL. The defense gave up those wins.
I want to upgrade this OL as much as ev ryone else but I can do that by adding Nicks and a OG in the 2nd.

I just do not see any of them- not Ingram, Upshaw, Coples; NONE of them really look like they would be any more of a pass rusher then Spencer. His numbers in college are about where theres were.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

I just do not see any of them- not Ingram, Upshaw, Coples; NONE of them really look like they would be any more of a pass rusher then Spencer. His numbers in college are about where theres were.

way to look at college stats and judge a player.

There has been a ton of players put up great stats in college to do nothing in the NFL.

I have watched each of them play and all three are big upgrades over Spencer.

You draft a OG in the first to replace Koiser, great I'm all for it then you draft a CB in the 2nd to replace Newman, great all for it, but who replaces Spencer? Your not going to find a 2nd or 3rd round pick to do that. I hope your not relying on Butler.

I can find a replacement for Spencer in the first at 14 or trading back and getting hightower. I ca also get a replacement for Newman in the 2nd and a replacement for Koiser in the 2nd.

Konz and Jones are the only ones I want to draft to replace Costa but I think Jones go mid 2nd to early 3rd and Dallas will miss out on him.
Sign Nicks and get a 2nd round OG, then you have Killer, Arkin, and Nagy all who played Center in college to compete for the starting Center spot.

I will say this all year. The defense is the reason this team didn't make the playoffs Romo put up amazing stats this year behind this OL, This defense gave up 5 fourth quarter leads. Our defense holds just three of those and we are 11-5 if not better since the Eagles and Giants would have been done and had nothing to play for those last two games.

3 of the final 4 teams this year had a great defense. SF, NYG, and Baltimore. I want a great defense while still spending one draft pick on the OL and signing Nicks. I just don't think it makes alot of sense to spend the 14th pick in the draft on a OG, when OG is the 2nd deepest position for depth in this draft.

After the first round you chances of finding a first day true 3-4 OLB goes way down.

Don't take this as I hate DeCastro because I don't. I love DeCastro and I wish we didn't have so many needs or if the OG position was so deep this year. If our defense was great and only needed a CB or a safety then I would be on here saying get DeCastro and trade up for Konz. When our defense was playing well I posted a thread saying get Konz and Zeitler round 1 and 2, but our defense went gawd awful and needs a true rebuild.