TonyPauline: Hearing right now Poe/DT/Memphis is the favorite in the Cowboys war room

[TVMan]

Originally Posted by SilverStarCowboy

Screw Mayock, Poe starts for Dallas week 1, day 1 and play 1.

Yeah and the Steelers are thanking Mayock as they sit back waiting for Poe at 24. Then, when he eventually rises to Pro Bowl level, we can all complain that we didn't draft him.

[Denim Chicken]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Completely disagree. You are essentially saying draft for need in round 1.

Draft players for their projected careers. Any production you get year 1 is a bonus.

By that rational Rams should have drafted RG3, no?

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by reddyuta

This seems fair but he did play nose guard and he would be a top 5 pick if had better stats and we would not have a shot at him at all.

To some degree or another, this applies to practically the entire draft.

I counter that with, if he had an okay combine he wouldn't even be in the discussion.

[newlander]

this SUCKS.....IF true.............normally I'd say smokescreen, but with Jerrah and his boys at the helm: who knows?

[skinsscalper]

Originally Posted by Fletch

I would love to have him here too. Too many have their predictions or pet cats, but Poe is a more athletic version of Sapp in my opinion.

Without any of the production. RED FLAG!!

[TheFinisher]

I've never seen a prospect who catches more blocks than Poe, hand usage is Football 101 and something kids learn during pop warner. Coaches have probably been in this kid's ear his entire life telling him to use his hands and he still doesn't get it... that the definition of uncoachable IMO.

He got away with that at Memphis because he was just so much bigger and stronger than everyone, but if he doesn't get that fixed he'll be eaten alive by NFL Lineman. You have no chance on the DL if you don't know how to use your hands.

[Aven8]

I would be A ok with this move. I would much rather have him then a Kirkpatrick or Barron.

It's funny how couch scouts look on youtube to see his production at a dumpy basketball school and watch a couple of plays and think he can't play! Who the hell had ever heard of Leon Lett?

I've said this before but I am intrigued by Poe very much. You can't coach size and his athletisism. That's a big dude with some skills. The only problem I have is that I don't think he will be there at 14.

Also remember this folks, our scout almost NEVER go with the guys that we think they are. They love going after diamonds in the rough per say.

I see them intrigued by Poe much like they were with Tyron last year. Athlectic freaks!

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

I hear our scouts were high on him as well. yeah they are so much smarter then our fans

We were all over Aikman and Mandarich wasn't ever considered as a trade back up into the first. Absolutely no interest at all.

[jobberone]

Poe will be a player. He will need coaching just like any other rookie. He plays too high and that's ok for a NT that's 6-4. They'll coach that out of him early on. Do you think there will be another DL, CB or S that's worth #14? Do you think they are that interested in the crop of OLB at 14 that they can't get about the same risk/reward in the second? Unless they are after DeCastro at 14 or they have someone lined up to trade down with then it could be a short list at 14. Just thinking out loud.

[cowboyjoe]

Originally Posted by jobberone

Poe will be a player. He will need coaching just like any other rookie. He plays too high and that's ok for a NT that's 6-4. They'll coach that out of him early on. Do you think there will be another DL, CB or S that's worth #14? Do you think they are that interested in the crop of OLB at 14 that they can't get about the same risk/reward in the second? Unless they are after DeCastro at 14 or they have someone lined up to trade down with then it could be a short list at 14. Just thinking out loud.

I think like this. Way back in early 80's, the cowboys were getting ready to take an OL they loved. The raiders picked right before them and chose this OL. The cowboys were stunned, especially Landry.

You have to cover all scenarios. Say for instance trent richardson is still there, and 2 teams call up to trade up to get him. What are you being offered for him, or do you stay there at 14, take best player available. BPA!

Or say when 9th pick is fixing to be selected and you have on your board only 15 players should be taken in 1st round.

So, picks 9-13 all go off of your own board, what do you do then?

You have to have covered all scenarios, so if you have to trade down, what grouping of players do you have in your next grouping of players and how many if you get trade offers to move down.

Always, always take BPA, and cover all your bases.

Be prepared!

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by cowboyjoe

I think like this. Way back in early 80's, the cowboys were getting ready to take an OL they loved. The raiders picked right before them and chose this OL. The cowboys were stunned, especially Landry.

You have to cover all scenarios. Say for instance trent richardson is still there, and 2 teams call up to trade up to get him. What are you being offered for him, or do you stay there at 14, take best player available. BPA!

Or say when 9th pick is fixing to be selected and you have on your board only 15 players should be taken in 1st round.

So, picks 9-13 all go off of your own board, what do you do then?

You have to have covered all scenarios, so if you have to trade down, what grouping of players do you have in your next grouping of players and how many if you get trade offers to move down.

Always, always take BPA, and cover all your bases.

Be prepared!

I love your enthusiasm!

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by jobberone

Poe will be a player. He will need coaching just like any other rookie. He plays too high and that's ok for a NT that's 6-4. They'll coach that out of him early on. Do you think there will be another DL, CB or S that's worth #14? Do you think they are that interested in the crop of OLB at 14 that they can't get about the same risk/reward in the second? Unless they are after DeCastro at 14 or they have someone lined up to trade down with then it could be a short list at 14. Just thinking out loud.

If none of the OLB, DL, S or CB are worth #14 I don't know how Poe is.

I mean, unless the draft is based solely on potential there's no way Poe is worth #14.

[TVMan]

Originally Posted by TheFinisher

I've never seen a prospect who catches more blocks than Poe, hand usage is Football 101 and something kids learn during pop warner. Coaches have probably been in this kid's ear his entire life telling him to use his hands and he still doesn't get it... that the definition of uncoachable IMO.

He got away with that at Memphis because he was just so much bigger and stronger than everyone, but if he doesn't get that fixed he'll be eaten alive by NFL Lineman. You have no chance on the DL if you don't know how to use your hands.

You must have missed the post about how he actually started playing the game to begin with. He began playing in High School. He has been playing probably 5 years at most. So, he still has plenty of time to get it.

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

If none of the OLB, DL, S or CB are worth #14 I don't know how Poe is.

I mean, unless the draft is based solely on potential there's no way Poe is worth #14.

Well we disagree about Poe. I would rather draft him in the lower 1/3 of the first but guys like him, OTs, pass rushers, QBs, elite DBs will generally rise. He will go in the top 20 likely top 15. He fits our scheme and needs. He has the tools to do the job. He's big enough, strong enough, and quick/fast enough to play NT and DE and do it well. People keep saying his film doesn't match his draft round. Well that's not a complete consensus as others feel differently. I agree he's riskier than some others in that tier.

[fanfromvirginia]

Originally Posted by jobberone

Well we disagree about Poe. I would rather draft him in the lower 1/3 of the first but guys like him, OTs, pass rushers, QBs, elite DBs will generally rise. He will go in the top 20 likely top 15. He fits our scheme and needs. He has the tools to do the job. He's big enough, strong enough, and quick/fast enough to play NT and DE and do it well. People keep saying his film doesn't match his draft round. Well that's not a complete consensus as others feel differently. I agree he's riskier than some others in that tier.

Agreed. Count me as another fan of Poe who recognizes and admits he's a risky pick.