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Old 04-12-2012   #1
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Default McShay vs. Kiper

Has anyone seen these two battling it out on ESPN lately? They go to war! I'm going to read far into it and say Kiper is feeling threatened by McShay. He likes to throw the "I've been doing this for 34 years" around.

You'd think Kiper wouldn't feel threatened since he is clearly the better of the two.
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I wouldn't say Kiper is clearly the better of the two. His drafts usually fall well short of the expected results. FAr moreso than his reputation would suggest at least.

Every year we build up a handful of players that we think will be drafted, and every year, we see a completely different handful of players.
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Has anyone seen these two battling it out on ESPN lately? They go to war! I'm going to read far into it and say Kiper is feeling threatened by McShay. He likes to throw the "I've been doing this for 34 years" around.

You'd think Kiper wouldn't feel threatened since he is clearly the better of the two.
I think ESPN wants the banter. It's been going on a for a few years now.
I prefer having more than one opinon there anyway. I may prefer Mayock over both of them.
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For me Kiper is the best on the draft. not only in his knowledge but he entertains.

that being said them going to war is good for TV and Mcshay and Kiper are well aware of this
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I think ESPN wants the banter. It's been going on a for a few years now.
I prefer having more than one opinon there anyway. I may prefer Mayock over both of them.
yea, i like mayock and mcshay actually. kiper is a little too smug for me.

mcshay clearly gets pissed off when kiper jabs at him though.
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Yeah fighting over Jamarcus Russell mcshay was pissed
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Yeah fighting over Jamarcus Russell mcshay was pissed
yea he was. it's been like that the past few days. i'm waiting for an explosion and name calling.
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Dumb and Dumber, IMO.
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Although there is not doubt in my mind that ESPN plays it up like they have on other shows and other people...I also believe that they generally do not care for each other that much.


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Although there is not doubt in my mind that ESPN plays it up like they have on other shows and other people...I also believe that they generally do not care for each other that much.
yup, seems like kiper doesn't like the idea of having some younger guy sharing the spotlight with him. kiper always has this "i smell ****" look on his face.
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I've enjoyed it but I like Kiper much better. *Shrugs* I know some people don't care for him but I've always found his information about the value of where players should be drafted and such to be pretty good and solid information.
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Kiper really seems to put more effort into it draft day. Frankily i dont care of his results, the draft is not easy and more is left unsaid than what we can all gleam from the combine and draft, but Kiper puts some work into at draft day, for him that his is christmas.
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fair or not, I put little into what McSkhay has to say. Mayock is probabl my favorite.
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to be honest i put little into what any of them say. there is so much that can happen on draft day to distort anybodies mock. it's all speculation so i just use it as 1)entertainment 2)to gauge who is looking where. i don't hold them to anything they say.

kiper is an *** imo though, again.
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Has anyone seen these two battling it out on ESPN lately? They go to war! I'm going to read far into it and say Kiper is feeling threatened by McShay. He likes to throw the "I've been doing this for 34 years" around.

You'd think Kiper wouldn't feel threatened since he is clearly the better of the two.
Kiper is constantly that away w/ anyone saying anything outside of his own opinion.

He and Hodge were going at it the other night because Hodge had RG3 listed as a better NFL QB than Luck and why he should be #1.

Funny to watch.

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