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04-19-2012
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#31
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Fact > Your Opinion
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I like how he compared Barron to previous top safeties. I wish they did more of this each year. Ok, you can rank the current crop of wide receivers, but where do you rank them compared to previous classes?
"Can we get Drew Bledsoe back out here just for a week, so you guys can fall back in love with Tony? Let's sign Drew Bledsoe back for a week. Because sometimes when you have a pretty girl for so long, you forget how pretty she is. But when you put an ugly girl next to her, 'Oh, no, I'm really doing well.' And maybe we need to bring Drew back, so we can back to 'Oh, no, we're really doing well.'"
-Michael Irvin
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04-19-2012
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#32
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Right Kind of Guy
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CATCH17
Did he pretty much say he has him as the 7th best player in this draft?
I got a lot of respect for Casserly. Especially when he had the cahonies to take Mario Williams over Reggie Bush when nobody else would.
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No reversing field now. You've got this guy as a bust remember?
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04-19-2012
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#33
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Senior Member
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I dont think I read anywhere or from any draft site that Barron will not be a solid pick
Sounds to me all I hear are scouts raving about him....same with DeCastro.
btw....how did Barron get pegged as a poor coverage safty? Inbox saftey?
I dont know...Cox....DeCastro....or Barron at 14 will be very good pickups.
I love DeCastro....seeing how he will anchor his spot for 10 yrs....but I cant seem to shake getting Barron and his leadership and smarts leading our defensive backfield for years.
John 16:22 And ye therefore now have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no one taketh away from you.
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04-19-2012
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#34
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by supercowboy8
Thats going to be hard to do. I think you can get Barron and a OG in the 2nd like Zeitler or Silatulo but in the 3rd I dunno who you can get to be a starter.
I think we can get a CBor DE that can play alot but not be a starrter this year. If we can get a NT or Center that falls then that would be nice. They might be a starter day one then. I guess a #3 WR could also be considered a starter.
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Well again, it depends on how the draft falls really. Depending on how JG wants to run this thing, perhaps a #3 WR or a #2 TE can be considered a starter. What I thinking with that statement is getting a guy who can start at interior OL, DE, and S in the first 3 rounds.
The most likely way to get those 3 starters is to draft Barron, pick the BPA DE in the 2nd, and Brooks or Blake in the 3rd or 4th. Also, of course it is easier to get those 3 by trading back in the first round, although I don't think we have to do that.
Going through a live draft is alot different than making up a random mock draft. Barron does open up our draft more than any other pick cause of the thinness of the class and our huge need there. Now I will say that if someone falls, my list gets longer by that guy....just saying.... 
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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04-19-2012
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#35
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Senior Member
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I've had my heart set on Cowboys re-stocking the trenches, DeCastro seems a safe pick, and/or the best DT/DE/OLB available with that first pick.
BUT, I keep saying in all my posts that I think this team needs to get smarter and more instinctive and Safety has been a HUGE weakness for this team for a long time (particularly since decline in production from Roy Williams).
It isn't as sexy as getting some help for D Ware up front, because that was a huge issue last season, and would help secondary overall as well, but adding Barron sounds like it has a good chance of helping in a big way as well.
What is his injury history like, moving forward. I heard he's had a few injuries he's played through over last few seasons. Are they long-term/chronic type problems?
LarryCanadian
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04-19-2012
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#36
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Originally Posted by LarryCanadian
I've had my heart set on Cowboys re-stocking the trenches, DeCastro seems a safe pick, and/or the best DT/DE/OLB available with that first pick.
BUT, I keep saying in all my posts that I think this team needs to get smarter and more instinctive and Safety has been a HUGE weakness for this team for a long time (particularly since decline in production from Roy Williams).
It isn't as sexy as getting some help for D Ware up front, because that was a huge issue last season, and would help secondary overall as well, but adding Barron sounds like it has a good chance of helping in a big way as well.
What is his injury history like, moving forward. I heard he's had a few injuries he's played through over last few seasons. Are they long-term/chronic type problems?
LarryCanadian
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That's pretty much my sentiment. We have been running a 3-4 with just another guys at defensive end for a while now. The premiere 3-4 teams all invest heavily in their front. We don't and we are not a premiere defense since 2008 when we had a very good rotation of ends and Ellis and Spencer together.
It looks like Brockers/Poe are falling some. I would much rather have one of them and an extra 2nd than Barron alone.
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04-19-2012
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#37
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze
Barron would probably be my number 1 choice as of right now (but it changes like the wind sometimes), with DeCastro and then Cox after him.
He was the absolute leader of by far the best secondary in the country. In this draft, which is deeper in guards and DEs, getting an immediate starter at safety is just a bonus that would allow us to pick an interior lineman and DE later in the draft.
Sometimes we think of what we would want in a total mock, without thinking about during a draft. During the draft, with Barron already picked, we would have our choice of OL and DL (deeper positions) in this draft. If we pick DeCastro or Cox, we won't get a chance at a safety who can start and will be stuck with the JAG that is Pool.
I want to leave this draft with 3 guys who can start immediately. Drafting Barron first gives us the best chance to get those 3 guys.
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I'd rather go with Cox if he's there, then DeCastro, followed by Barron and Poe if we remain at 14.
If none of those are there, try to trade down and take Glenn or Konz.
Those are the six guys I'd be happy with Dallas picking in the first round, based on who might be available when the Cowboys pick.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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04-20-2012
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#38
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Zone Scribe
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Some interesting tweets by Breer today on Barron...
@AlbertBreer
Speaking of ... Not surprised by Barron's rise. Here's why: Hard to find a college safety who had as much responsibility mentally as he did.
@AlbertBreer
Scout/execs say less & less is being asked of college safeties in directing traffic in secondary. But Saban had Barron doing plenty of that.
@AlbertBreer
@RapSheet You'd know better than I would, but I heard Saban trusted him to a pretty serious degree to run the show. True captain back there.
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04-20-2012
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#39
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
Some interesting tweets by Breer today on Barron...
@AlbertBreer
Speaking of ... Not surprised by Barron's rise. Here's why: Hard to find a college safety who had as much responsibility mentally as he did.
@AlbertBreer
Scout/execs say less & less is being asked of college safeties in directing traffic in secondary. But Saban had Barron doing plenty of that.
@AlbertBreer
@RapSheet You'd know better than I would, but I heard Saban trusted him to a pretty serious degree to run the show. True captain back there.
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To me Barron sounds like a perfect fit for Dallas secondary......we complain all yr about confusion.....finger pointing....lack of leadership....a identity .......This kid seems to have the character to solve these issues
John 16:22 And ye therefore now have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no one taketh away from you.
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04-20-2012
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#40
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
Some interesting tweets by Breer today on Barron...
@AlbertBreer
Speaking of ... Not surprised by Barron's rise. Here's why: Hard to find a college safety who had as much responsibility mentally as he did.
@AlbertBreer
Scout/execs say less & less is being asked of college safeties in directing traffic in secondary. But Saban had Barron doing plenty of that.
@AlbertBreer
@RapSheet You'd know better than I would, but I heard Saban trusted him to a pretty serious degree to run the show. True captain back there.
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our defensive qb at 14!
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