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04-22-2012
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#31
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Benched
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | On a horse |
Posts: | 2,882 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by casmith07
Cox or Konz/Zeitler?
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That's tough... You patch the up the O-line nicely with the latter, but players like Cox are so rare that I'd stick with him.
I think we can get a starting caliber G and/or C in the middle rounds.. I don't see another Cox.
Plus, passing on Cox would almost certainly mean he'd be an Eagle at 15 
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04-22-2012
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#32
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Banned
Joined: | Sep 2004 |
Location: | I'm on a boat |
Posts: | 24,279 |
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No chance the Browns give up that much to move up just 8 spots in the middle of the first round.
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04-22-2012
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#33
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Unofficial GM
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 1,271 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhast
Would you take Mercilus and Zeitler over Cox?
I would. I know some may not, but I'd have no problem with it.
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No...but make it McClellan and Zeitler and I may be on board...although I'm not as in love with Zeitler as some folks. I'd be more inclined to take the best DE still available at #37 and then take best G/C available at #45 unless a high caliber CB or Harrison Smith were available.
"Contrary to popular opinion, you CAN lead a horse to water AND make him drink...you just have to hold his head under water long enough."
- Wulf
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04-22-2012
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#34
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Spider 2 Y-Banana
Years Donated 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Oct 2008 |
Location: | NOVA |
Posts: | 23,817 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulfman
No way they're going to take interior O-linemen in both the first and second rounds. Just not happenin'.
One or the other, sure. But not both.
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A man can dream... 
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04-22-2012
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#35
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Senior Member
Joined: | May 2004 |
Location: | Fort Worth, Tx |
Posts: | 827 |
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Lets make that trade. Yesterday.
22: Coby Fleener
37: Chandler Jones
45: Amini Silatolu
81: Brandon Boykin
113:Ryan Broyles
118:Josh Norman
135:Phillip Blake
152:Jake Bequette
186:Hebron Fangupo
211:Terrance Ganaway
222:Jerry Franklin
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04-22-2012
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#36
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Spider 2 Y-Banana
Years Donated 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Oct 2008 |
Location: | NOVA |
Posts: | 23,817 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBell523
That's tough... You patch the up the O-line nicely with the latter, but players like Cox are so rare that I'd stick with him.
I think we can get a starting caliber G and/or C in the middle rounds.. I don't see another Cox.
Plus, passing on Cox would almost certainly mean he'd be an Eagle at 15 
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I really would like to have a pass rush that completely bails out the rest of the defense like the Giants, though.
And it would be even better since our DBs are actually looking to be pretty good, unlike in NY.
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04-22-2012
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#37
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Unofficial GM
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 1,271 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by casmith07
A man can dream... 
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Lol....I know. I'm just trying to talk you off the ledge beforehand. 
"Contrary to popular opinion, you CAN lead a horse to water AND make him drink...you just have to hold his head under water long enough."
- Wulf
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04-22-2012
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#38
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Newo
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 7,094 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by funkytown
Lets make that trade. Yesterday.
22: Coby Fleener
37: Chandler Jones
45: Amini Silatolu
81: Brandon Boykin
113:Ryan Broyles
118:Josh Norman
135:Phillip Blake
152:Jake Bequette
186:Hebron Fangupo
211:Terrance Ganaway
222:Jerry Franklin
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How about Mercilus at 22, Zeitler 37 Orson Charles 45. The rest of your mock I'm perfect with.
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04-22-2012
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#39
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Unofficial GM
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 1,271 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by funkytown
Lets make that trade. Yesterday.
22: Coby Fleener
37: Chandler Jones
45: Amini Silatolu
81: Brandon Boykin
113:Ryan Broyles
118:Josh Norman
135:Phillip Blake
152:Jake Bequette
186:Hebron Fangupo
211:Terrance Ganaway
222:Jerry Franklin
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Man, if the Cowboys were to trade down to #22 and then take Coby Fleener, we'd be able to hear Bill Jones' head swell all over the country. That's what he mentioned as his dream mock on Talkin' Cowboys this week.
"Contrary to popular opinion, you CAN lead a horse to water AND make him drink...you just have to hold his head under water long enough."
- Wulf
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04-22-2012
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#40
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Posts: | 29,068 |
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I'm gonna call bogus on that trade rumor........that or sheer idiocy in Cleveland.
Looking at the chart of charts.
They'd essentially be giving up an excess amount equal to Dallas 2nd round pick in order to move up 8 spots.
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04-22-2012
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#41
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Senior Member
Joined: | May 2004 |
Location: | Fort Worth, Tx |
Posts: | 827 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhast
How about Mercilus at 22, Zeitler 37 Orson Charles 45. The rest of your mock I'm perfect with.
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Hmm. Almost went that direction. I kinda like that one better.
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04-22-2012
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#42
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Senior Member
Joined: | May 2004 |
Location: | Fort Worth, Tx |
Posts: | 827 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulfman
Man, if the Cowboys were to trade down to #22 and then take Coby Fleener, we'd be able to hear Bill Jones' head swell all over the country. That's what he mentioned as his dream mock on Talkin' Cowboys this week.
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I really want Fleener for this offense. Add Fleener and Broyles, and this offense will be crazy good.
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04-22-2012
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#43
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Senior Member
Joined: | Sep 2011 |
Posts: | 2,646 |
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4 picks to move up 8 spots? Highlyyyy unlikely.
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04-22-2012
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#44
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Joined: | Feb 2008 |
Location: | Dallas |
Posts: | 16,905 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
I'm gonna call bogus on that trade rumor........that or sheer idiocy in Cleveland.
Looking at the chart of charts.
They'd essentially be giving up an excess amount equal to Dallas 2nd round pick in order to move up 8 spots.
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That's about right.
But we all know the Browns have so few needs that they would overpay by a 2nd rounder for the 14th pick.
We have some gullible partners in crime around here sometimes.
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04-22-2012
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#45
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Senior Member
Joined: | Sep 2011 |
Posts: | 2,646 |
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Look for the Browns to take Weeden early.
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