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Old 04-27-2012   #1
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Default Will Jenkins and a 4th Do It?

Can cowboys get back into 2nd with their first 4th rounder and Mike Jenkins? Or maybe add another mid rounder next year. 3rd or 4th next year.
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Old 04-27-2012   #2
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Jenkins isn't going anywhere. Garrett and company said they like their cb depth now.
I like ideas about the breaking away or overthrowing of established order. I am interested in anything about revolt, disorder, chaos -- especially activity that seems to have no meaning. It seems to me to be the road toward freedom -- external revolt is a way to bring about internal freedom. Rather than starting inside, I start outside -- reach the mental through the physical. - Jim Morrison
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I don't see any reason why Jenkins has any value right now. So, no.
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Jenkins probably couldn't even clear a physical right now, he has one year left on his contract and his play is inconsistent at best. We'd be lucky to get a 7th for him
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Jenkins isn't going anywhere. Garrett and company said they like their cb depth now.
That is probably right. We are going to get one more year as at the very least a way above average 3rd CB and then a comp pick for a relatively low salary, which is much more than we would get five hours from now in a trade.
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We might get a 4th for Felix Jones. Other than that, we'd have to trade next years picks to get a 2nd.
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We might get a 4th for Felix Jones. Other than that, we'd have to trade next years picks to get a 2nd.
We could bundle our 4th with next year's 2nd and be close.
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we need Jenkins. so many 3 and 4 wr sets now. plus i don't want scandrick anywhere near a starting role. play him this year and let him go at the end of season.

question is do we get a comp pick if he leaves?
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we need Jenkins. so many 3 and 4 wr sets now. plus i don't want scandrick anywhere near a starting role. play him this year and let him go at the end of season.

question is do we get a comp pick if he leaves?
Scandrick? He's under contract (and an above average slot guy). We would likely get a comp pick when Jenkins goes next year.
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I don't get it. People were crying foul over our cb play and depth last season, and now that we've addressed it, some are complaining about moving up to get an elite corner in Claiborne and some want to trade Jenkins? Let's enjoy the talent and depth we have at the moment and worry about injuries and contracts when the time comes.
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Well, considering Jenkins is recovering from an injury, and he's in the last year of his contract. Any trade would have to be sweetened with a couple of prime draft picks to entice a team. JJ has also previously stated, that current players have the least trade value during the draft, which is why it seldomly done.
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When healthy, Jenkins is a great CB!! Maybe teams see that and want to jump in on him.
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Considering Jenkins trade value is at an all time low, I would just keep him for no more than you'll get for him. If you're going to build this defense around the secondary, you better have some depth. Without Jenkins you're one injury from Scandrick starting and God knows who as your nickel CB.
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Considering Jenkins trade value is at an all time low, I would just keep him for no more than you'll get for him. If you're going to build this defense around the secondary, you better have some depth. Without Jenkins you're one injury from Scandrick starting and God knows who as your nickel CB.
this is perfect



great defenses are built around great front 7's not "the secondary"

also, this is probably the last time someone will call a secondary with brodney poole and sensi as the core of the defense

since this is our intention lets spend the next 2 picks on safety and CB

this cowboy front office just does not learn

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Considering Jenkins trade value is at an all time low, I would just keep him for no more than you'll get for him. If you're going to build this defense around the secondary, you better have some depth. Without Jenkins you're one injury from Scandrick starting and God knows who as your nickel CB.
Were I am GM I'd be willing to give a r3 for Jenkins provided he passes a physical.

I get him one year for cheap as he plays for his big pay day so will be motivated. The r3 CBs in this draft are no where as physically gifted as Jenkins. And he has plenty of starting experience.

Next year I retain his rights so can either force a big offer from someone else, franchise him or simply extend him long term with a couple seasons of lowish cap hits. Not a bad deal really.

If I give up a 3 then return a 4 supplemental for a year rental at starting CB I could live with that result.

There are a lot of worse starting CBs.
At the same time he hasn't shown he can physically handle every down play so you need to prepare for that and get him some rest. As a 2nd CB he has some value IMHO.

Trade ups have been coming at great values. Jenkins is not needed to count as a high draft pick in trade up just sweetener.

I'd check with the Rams and Browns for sure.
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