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04-29-2012
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Does Crawford remind anyone else of Tony Tolbert?
I like this kid: athletic, smart, solid guy. His measurables and tape remind me of Tolbert......whom I have high regard for. Crazy or not guys?
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04-29-2012
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You Can't Fix Stupid
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We can only hope
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04-29-2012
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Senior Member
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Different body types so not really to me, Cowboys were comparing him to Ratliff: motor and work ethic wise.
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04-29-2012
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Senior Member
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Tony Tolbert is easily one of the most under rated and under appreciated Cowboys along with Thomas Everette ever. They would do cart wheels is he turned out that good. Big difference though, Tolbert was a 4-3 DE. Crawford was brought in as 5 tech who can provide a pass rush.
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04-29-2012
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Tolbert came into the league at 235 pounds as a LB. He was a long, lanky guy who played with good leverage and was a good complementary player to Haley. He was a pretty good value for the 4th round where he was drafted.
Crawford is more of a power guy with quickness and will be a 5-technique in the pros.
He is quite similar to Ratliff in some ways - my guess is he must have longer arms.
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04-29-2012
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Run-loving Dino
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RS12
Tony Tolbert is easily one of the most under rated and under appreciated Cowboys along with Thomas Everette ever.
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Totally agree. Tolbert was one of my very favorites from those teams, and a very underrated player. He even more than Everett because he was here longer and had less of a pedigree than Thomas did.
But he was essential to those teams, and he did it with no fuss and good character.
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04-29-2012
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Mr. Fixit
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eskimo
Tolbert came into the league at 235 pounds as a LB. He was a long, lanky guy who played with good leverage and was a good complementary player to Haley. He was a pretty good value for the 4th round where he was drafted.
Crawford is more of a power guy with quickness and will be a 5-technique in the pros.
He is quite similar to Ratliff in some ways - my guess is he must have longer arms.
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Jimmy tried to convert several OLBs into 4-3 DEs, but Tolbert was the only one that stuck.
"Our guys are gonna be good, and we know it. So that ain't talkin'. That's just the (bleepin') way it is."
Rob Ryan, Dallas Cowboys DC
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04-29-2012
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Put Pearson in the HOF
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Tolbet was a stud and bad knees kept him from having a great career--i'd love for Dallas to have another
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04-29-2012
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thanks eskimo...
[quote=Eskimo;4540476]Tolbert came into the league at 235 pounds as a LB. He was a long, lanky guy who played with good leverage and was a good complementary player to Haley. He was a pretty good value for the 4th round where he was drafted.
Crawford is more of a power guy with quickness and will be a 5-technique in the pros.
......I didn't realize that. I just remember the finished, chiseled product when he was at Def. End: UTEP product as I recall. Selfless, productive and just a VERY good player and person. But I was misguided on the post....Crawford is indeed much bigger than Tony was out of college...damn, wait until Woicik gets ahold of him.  I MIGHT just get my Def. Tackle yet in this kid: he is said to have the ability to play multiple positions on the D.Line: maybe not in year one, but by his second year he should be able to line up inside as well as outside depending on the down and distance. 
Last edited by newlander : 04-29-2012 at 07:07 PM.
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04-29-2012
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Chris Canty?
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04-29-2012
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Mr. Fixit
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanilla2
Chris Canty?
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Canty was 6'7 and had a wingspan of a pteradactyl. Was proven starter too. It was his career threatening eye injury that dropped him out of the first day.
"Our guys are gonna be good, and we know it. So that ain't talkin'. That's just the (bleepin') way it is."
Rob Ryan, Dallas Cowboys DC
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04-29-2012
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We got a hat. I want a ring.
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I like the Crawford pick and I'll say that if he turns out to be anything at all like Tony Tolbert, as a player for the Dallas Cowboys, I'd be more than thrilled.
Tolbert was one of my absolute favorite players during the 90's. The guy just doesn't get nearly enough credit for just how good he was.
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04-29-2012
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Dr. Freakasaurus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
Totally agree. Tolbert was one of my very favorites from those teams, and a very underrated player. He even more than Everett because he was here longer and had less of a pedigree than Thomas did.
But he was essential to those teams, and he did it with no fuss and good character.
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Amen. I was huge Tolbert fan. He was incredibly reliable and came up with pressures and sacks at big moments. He was great against the run. I'm pretty sure he is actually one of the all-time postseason sack leaders. Definitely one of the most underrated Cowboys of all-time. Anyway, that aside, I don't think the Crawford/Tolbert comparison is a good one. Crawford is a bigger player.
"I just always feel that he's going to find a way to win the game…He has evolved into a great, great leader of the team...He is the total package." Roger Staubach about Tony Romo
"They're a talented group with a great quarterback, and they're well on their way." Troy Aikman on the Cowboys and Tony Romo
But what do Roger and Troy know about great quarterbacking, talent, leadership, and winning anyway?
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04-29-2012
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Senior Member
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meh....
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Originally Posted by BIGDen
Amen. I was huge Tolbert fan. He was incredibly reliable and came up with pressures and sacks at big moments. He was great against the run. I'm pretty sure he is actually one of the all-time postseason sack leaders. Definitely one of the most underrated Cowboys of all-time. Anyway, that aside, I don't think the Crawford/Tolbert comparison is a good one. Crawford is a bigger player.
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...I WAS off on the comparison between the two: but at least we all got to give Tony props: guy was nails as I recall.
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04-29-2012
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
Totally agree. Tolbert was one of my very favorites from those teams, and a very underrated player. He even more than Everett because he was here longer and had less of a pedigree than Thomas did.
But he was essential to those teams, and he did it with no fuss and good character.
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Yeah, and its incredible to remember just how deep that line was. They could just wear o-lines out with that rotation.
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