Kiper's first look at the 2013 Draft/Big Board and others 5/9/12...

[Risen Star]

Click the link for all the commentary. I'll just list the players here. Everyone with an asterisk after the name is an underclassmen in 2012.

1.. Matt Barkley QB USC
2.. Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia *
3.. Barkevious Mingo DE LSU *
4.. Logan Thomas QB Virginia Tech *
5.. Sam Montgomery DE LSU *

6.. D.J. Fluker T Alabama *
7.. Robert Woods WR USC *
8.. David Amerson CB North Carolina St. *
9.. Star Lotulelei DT Utah
10. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame

11. Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio St. *
12. Taylor Lewan T Michigan *
13. Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
14. Johnny Adams CB Michigan St.
15. Kawann Short DT Purdue

16. Luke Joeckel T Texas A&M *
17. William Gholston DE Michigan St. *
18. Keenan Allen WR California *
19. Marcus Lattimore RB South Carolina *
20. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St. *

21. Le'Veon Bell RB Michigan St. *
22. Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi St.
23. Corey Lemonier DE Auburn *
24. Ricky Wagner T Wisconsin
25. Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame *


Just Missed

Seniors
Landry Jones QB Oklahoma
Monte Ball RB Wisconsin
Cobi Hamilton WR Arkansas
Joseph Fauria TE UCLA
Oday Aboushi T Virginia
Chase Thomas OLB Stanford
T.J. McDonald S USC
Josh Simon DT Ohio St.
Michael Buchanon DE Illinois
Alex Okafor DE Texas
Kevin Reddick LB North Carolina

Juniors
Tyler Bray QB Tennessee
Knile Davis RB Arkansas
Marquess Wilson WR Washington St.
Levine Toilolo TE Stanford
Bennie Logan DT LSU
Tony Jefferson S Oklahoma
Eric Reid S LSU
Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas
Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...big-board-year

[Manwiththeplan]

I could maybe want Star Lotulelei, but right now if you grade him on production, it's hard to say he's any better than Dontario Poe or Michael Brockers (more NT size than Brockers, who lookied like a 5 tech to me).

And both players were still gone by 14, if he has a good season, he's a lock for top 10. Same goes for Jonathan Hawkins, nice pipe dream, but that's about it.

Kawann Short would be a solid pick if available, but I honestly wouldn't be upset with trading back. This group pales in comparison with the last 3 drafts, and while I'm sure some unkown players will step up, many on this list will disappoint as well.

Depending on how the interior o-line plays, trade back from the first and draft a G and a C, or 2 guards in round 2.

[Hoofbite]

Be interesting to look back leading up to next years draft to see how many players fell off and how many are still up there.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

Be interesting to look back leading up to next years draft to see how many players fell off and how many are still up there.

It really would.

My guess is you could see a couple of these guys, at least on the just missed list, go undrafted.

Levy Adcock made a few of these lists last May, if I remember correctly. A lot can change in a year.

[cdewsxzaq]

You will not be seeing Logan Thomas up there for long. He's simply not THAT good.

I want to add Barkevious Mingo solely because his name is absolutely ridiculous... I can't imagine a guy named Barkevious Mingo doing anything except playing football. Also, he has a brother named Hughtavious.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by cdewsxzaq

You will not be seeing Logan Thomas up there for long. He's simply not THAT good.

I want to add Barkevious Mingo solely because his name is absolutely ridiculous... I can't imagine a guy named Barkevious Mingo doing anything except playing football. Also, he has a brother named Hughtavious.

He's 3rd on his board.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by cdewsxzaq

You will not be seeing Logan Thomas up there for long. He's simply not THAT good.

.

Thomas may turn out to be better than Barkley. Maybe that mean they both are too high? I don't know.

It should be fun to see how the season goes.

[xwalker]

Who is the top rated Center?

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by xwalker

Who is the top rated Center?

Costa

[TheFinisher]

Originally Posted by Manwiththeplan

I could maybe want Star Lotulelei, but right now if you grade him on production, it's hard to say he's any better than Dontario Poe or Michael Brockers (more NT size than Brockers, who lookied like a 5 tech to me).

And both players were still gone by 14, if he has a good season, he's a lock for top 10. Same goes for Jonathan Hawkins, nice pipe dream, but that's about it.

Kawann Short would be a solid pick if available, but I honestly wouldn't be upset with trading back. This group pales in comparison with the last 3 drafts, and while I'm sure some unkown players will step up, many on this list will disappoint as well.

Depending on how the interior o-line plays, trade back from the first and draft a G and a C, or 2 guards in round 2.

??

Lotulelei won the Morris trophy last year.

[Gaede]

I'm gonna make a bold prediction and say Landry Jones is our 1st round pick next year.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Click the link for all the commentary. I'll just list the players here. Everyone with an asterisk after the name is an underclassmen in 2012.

1.. Matt Barkley QB USC
2.. Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia *
3.. Barkevious Mingo DE LSU *
4.. Logan Thomas QB Virginia Tech *
5.. Sam Montgomery DE LSU *

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...big-board-year

Here are the top 10 for the only position that matters...

CB 1 *David Amerson
CB 2 Johnthan Banks
CB 3 *Xavier Rhodes
CB 4 *Tyrann Mathieu
CB 5 *Dee Milliner
CB 6 Johnny Adams
CB 7 *Carrington Byndom
CB 8 Micah Hyde
CB 9 Jordan Poyer
CB 10 *Nickell Robey

[Manwiththeplan]

Originally Posted by TheFinisher

??

Lotulelei won the Morris trophy last year.

And Michael Brockers was 2nd team all SEC, my point was, statistically not much seperates Lotulelei (9 TFL, 1.5 sacks) from Brockers (10 TFL, 2 sacks), or even Poe (8 TFL, 1 sack).

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by Gaede

I'm gonna make a bold prediction and say Landry Jones is our 1st round pick next year.

Unless Landry cuts way down on the ints, he won't be a first round pick... this is going to be a very good, very deep crop of quarterbacks....

[BEwareDIZZLE]

I hope we dont got for Landry. We should keep an eye on Geno Smith this season, he is a gamer.