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09-26-2012
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Baseball is rigged in other ways. Yankees $200 million plus in payroll, KC Royals $61 million. Heck even an average teams like the Rockies have no shot to sustain winning baseball at $80 million. Sports is suppose to be about competition, that isnt very competitive.
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09-26-2012
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#17
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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan
The umps always have a nice strike zone for the Yankees tho.
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It only seems that way because the Yankees can hit. |
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09-26-2012
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#18
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Originally Posted by Doomsday
Baseball is rigged in other ways. Yankees $200 million plus in payroll, KC Royals $61 million. Heck even an average teams like the Rockies have no shot to sustain winning baseball at $80 million. Sports is suppose to be about competition, that isnt very competitive.
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Every team has the same ability to spend on players. Since the owners will not open the books, you can not say that the Yankees or any other team has more money to spend then any other team. You can't confirm what other teams are making and how much owners are pocketing as opposed to spending. |
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09-26-2012
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#19
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Originally Posted by Hoofbite
Baseball has been just about the only sport that isn't "tainted" by officiating for a while.
Now, they have a huge steroid problem and always will because the cheaters are ahead of the game at every step of the way.
But as far as officiating goes, there are more judgement calls in a single baseball game then there are in any other sport.
Every pitch is a judgement call, every close play at first and every close play at any base.
But, for the most part I think the baseball officials get the calls rights. Now, maybe it's because baseball leaves little room for doubt. There is no joint possession rule and there isn't a lot of the BS that there is in the NFL regarding subjectivity.
Baseball has it's rules and they change very little. By nature, they really can't change all that much.
[View Full Quote]Every year the NFL institutes about a half dozen new rules and the rulebook has become so cumbersome and convoluted that on any given day, you're likely to get opposite rulings on similar plays. Also, the breadth of the rulebook often times over rules common sense. I guess in the flimsiest of stances you could say there was joint possession last night in the Packers game but any person with a set of eyes and understanding of the game would flat out agree that the Packer intercepted that ball. This isn't basketball where merely touching the ball is enough to cause a "Jump Ball" and thus award possession to the receiver.
Baseball is likely at the top in terms of on-field performance although they have less to take into consideration than football or basketball does. |
Actually baseball is the easiest to officiate and I disagree on it having more judgment calls.
It has more VISIBLE calls, but there are far more decisions to make in basketball. Football is close too.
Success in officiating basketball is more on what is not called. You have thousands of "calls" to make in a basketball game...it is that 95% of them don't have a whistle.
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09-26-2012
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#20
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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
Every team has the same ability to spend on players. Since the owners will not open the books, you can not say that the Yankees or any other team has more money to spend then any other team. You can't confirm what other teams are making and how much owners are pocketing as opposed to spending.
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This sounds like a Yankees fan response. |
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09-26-2012
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#21
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Originally Posted by RastaRocket
Yankees - Lakers - Cowboys
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Is this Lebron?  |
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09-26-2012
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#22
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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan
This sounds like a Yankees fan response.
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Absolutely. I am a Yankee fan but that doesn't mean that the response is not accurate. |
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09-26-2012
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#23
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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
Absolutely. I am a Yankee fan but that doesn't mean that the response is not accurate.
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Hard to prove if its accurate or not.
There may be some validity to it, but its hard to believe that that really is the case.
The only way we really see true competition in MLB is to have a hard salary cap. Have a truly level playing field when it comes to salaries. |
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09-26-2012
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#24
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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan
Hard to prove if its accurate or not.
There may be some validity to it, but its hard to believe that that really is the case.
The only way we really see true competition in MLB is to have a hard salary cap. Have a truly level playing field when it comes to salaries.
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That is not a solution. You can have the cap set at anything you want but unless you mandate salary expenditures, you can't guarantee anything. Besides, the players don't really want that. If you cap salaries, they don't get paid as much. |
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09-26-2012
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#25
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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan
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its soo weak isnt it? |
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09-26-2012
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#26
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Originally Posted by juck
its soo weak isnt it?
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If you say so. |
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09-26-2012
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#27
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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
That is not a solution. You can have the cap set at anything you want but unless you mandate salary expenditures, you can't guarantee anything. Besides, the players don't really want that. If you cap salaries, they don't get paid as much.
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Whats amazing is the other major sports can do it, but somehow its far too complicated for MLB to implement.
Could they regulate scouting, minor league $$$, international $$$, and other areas? Only if they wanted to actually do it. |
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09-26-2012
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#28
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Originally Posted by juck
its soo weak isnt it?
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Well, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . not to the front runners! |
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09-27-2012
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#29
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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan
Whats amazing is the other major sports can do it, but somehow its far too complicated for MLB to implement.
Could they regulate scouting, minor league $$$, international $$$, and other areas? Only if they wanted to actually do it.
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I don't know that anybody believes it's too complicated. I think that neither side, players or owners, want it. Players want to continue to have the bigger salaries this arrangement provides and the owners, for the most part, do not want to open their books. The Yankees are one of the few teams who have said they would be willing to open their books. Their books are so scrutinized that they are pretty much open anyway. |
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09-27-2012
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#30
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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan
Well, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . not to the front runners! |
We are all Cowboy Fans. Does that mean that we are all front runners? |
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