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09-26-2012
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#46
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Originally Posted by AdamJT13
It's not close.
If Lee makes one impact play in a game, people point to it and talk about how great he is. If Ware makes one impact play in a game, people point to the other 65 plays and talk about how he disappears.
Lee is the best inside linebacker we've had in a long time and looks like he'll get much better, but he still has a ways to go -- and/or Ware has to decline quite a bit -- before he's on Ware's level as a player.
Ware is an all-time great who is still in his prime. Lee is still trying to get to a Pro Bowl level.
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This is as real as it gets!
Feel free to close this thread and start another to discuss the most under appreciated star in the NFL. |
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09-26-2012
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#47
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Originally Posted by RastaRocket
2 forced fumbles on 2 sacks last week.... Ware.
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I can't believe we didn't recover those fumbles.. Let alone neither of them. That was horrible..we should have had both |
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09-26-2012
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#48
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The Chairman
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they are both equally as good at the position they play.
ware is a future hall of famer and lee will be one as well if he stays healthy.
lee has the gift that is not coachable at linebacker...instincts, right angles,smarts...etc.
ware has already earned his bust whether or not he gets a ring.
lee will help this team get a ring before ware retires though.
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09-26-2012
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#49
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Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.
Joined: | Jan 2011 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack
I can't believe we didn't recover those fumbles.. Let alone neither of them. That was horrible..we should have had both
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Definitely. Ware is unbelievably powerful though. He makes it look like nothing when he hacks down on the football, and he does that a lot. I can never figure out why he is sort of labeled "soft". He just makes it look too easy even when he lays you out. |
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09-26-2012
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#50
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
Yeah, he'll probably never have the accomplishments team wise to match up with guys like Emmitt, Troy and Staubach but a case can be made he was a better player than they were. He can't help he was born too late and had to play on Jerry's teams.
To me it comes down to Emmitt or Ware. You can claim those two were the best to ever play their position. I don't think you can say that about any other Cowboy.
JMO. It's a debate that will never be won or lost. I'm just glad he's done this in a Cowboys uniform.
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I don't know that I would put him above Randy White either. Randy got double and triple teamed every play and still dominated. I'm not knocking Ware but don't forget that we have had some great players here. |
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09-26-2012
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#51
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by starfrombirth
I don't know that I would put him above Randy White either. Randy got double and triple teamed every play and still dominated. I'm not knocking Ware but don't forget that we have had some great players here.
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Randy played the majority of his career at DT in a different era. I wouldn't really compare him to Ware.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "
"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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09-26-2012
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#52
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the Dude abides
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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That's a clown question, bro.
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09-26-2012
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#53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilyin
Randy played the majority of his career at DT in a different era. I wouldn't really compare him to Ware.
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Well, he did say any player at any position and Randy was a player at a position so I just ran with it..  |
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09-26-2012
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#54
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Save the Snow Leopard
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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Ware is our best WOLB and Lee is our best ILB. While that's not the same as comparing a WR and an OL but you get the point.
Did you know there are only 5000 Snow Leopards in the wild now and they are confined to Central Asia? However, the effective global population (those likely to reproduce) is less than half that number.
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09-26-2012
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#55
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Lee, although it's close.
The difference: Demarcus jumps offsides once or twice a game, typically in a big spot. Lee makes almost no mistakes and comes up with HUGE plays in HUGE spots on a regular basis.
Dude has instincts that cannot possibly be taught.
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Originally Posted by CowboyStar88
Shot me with his hat BS!!!!! There is zero thought process when putting your Damn hat on front or backwards!!! Sorry but this is such a BS weak crap. It's to the point of annoying our generation (romo and mine we are 6 days part in age) were notorious for wearing out "fitted" hats backwards bc it looked good. Damn people let it go it doesn't mean squat!
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Classic melt
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09-26-2012
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#56
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Senior Member
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Who cares honestly... They are both OUTSTANDING!
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09-26-2012
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#57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers
Who cares honestly... They are both OUTSTANDING!
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Nobody cares. We're all glad to have them both. A little debate never hurt anybody though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CowboyStar88
Shot me with his hat BS!!!!! There is zero thought process when putting your Damn hat on front or backwards!!! Sorry but this is such a BS weak crap. It's to the point of annoying our generation (romo and mine we are 6 days part in age) were notorious for wearing out "fitted" hats backwards bc it looked good. Damn people let it go it doesn't mean squat!
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Classic melt
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09-26-2012
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#58
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the Dude abides
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IheartRomo
Nobody cares. We're all glad to have them both. A little debate never hurt anybody though.
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It's a junior high debate. |
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09-26-2012
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#59
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Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.
Joined: | Jan 2011 |
Location: | Dallas |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IheartRomo
Lee, although it's close.
The difference: Demarcus jumps offsides once or twice a game, typically in a big spot. Lee makes almost no mistakes and comes up with HUGE plays in HUGE spots on a regular basis.
Dude has instincts that cannot possibly be taught.
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Really? |
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09-27-2012
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#60
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2010 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RastaRocket
Really?
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Absolutely. At this moment, I believe Lee makes more impact. Obviously, Ware has had a hall of fame career that Lee can't touch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CowboyStar88
Shot me with his hat BS!!!!! There is zero thought process when putting your Damn hat on front or backwards!!! Sorry but this is such a BS weak crap. It's to the point of annoying our generation (romo and mine we are 6 days part in age) were notorious for wearing out "fitted" hats backwards bc it looked good. Damn people let it go it doesn't mean squat!
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Classic melt
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