Is it me or did JG ruin TR?

[VACowboy]

I don't know if Garrett has ruined Romo or not, but I don't think Garrett's offense does Tony any favors. The way I see it, Garrett's scheme just doesn't set his players up to succeed. Blast away, but I bet if Romo were playing in Shanahan's offense, everyone would be talking about him in the same breath as Aaron Rodgers.

[zrinkill]

Originally Posted by zeroburrito

2007 was his best year and it isn't even close.

stats be damned.

if it weren't for tom brady he would have been the mvp.

Originally Posted by SHAMSzy

Thank you, thank you sir.

Finally someone with some sense.

07 was easily Romo's best year.

Before you bring up some silly stats, all I have to say is 13-3 Win/Loss with the passing game as the ball clubs biggest strength. Enough said.

In 2007 he was a 27 year old with fresh legs that had not had his collar bone, hand, ribs, lung punctured,ect ect in consecutive years yet.

Maybe just maybe that is why he stopped playing so recklessly not some kind of imagined coach sabotage.

[zeroburrito]

Originally Posted by zrinkill

In 2007 he was a 27 year old with fresh legs that had not had his collar bone, hand, ribs, lung punctured,ect ect in consecutive years yet.

Maybe just maybe that is why he stopped playing so recklessly not some kind of imagined coach sabotage.

i'm not talking about the coach or his health. i'm just saying that was his best year.

[BLEU3ASY]

I stopped reading when he said a QB "like" Alex Smith... why would you want to do that? Come'on man!!! Romo changed Romo, he simply matured. He knows that he can play the same game without all of the mistakes. If a QB is doing his job the ball will be thrown into tight spaces. They win some and the ball gets to it's intended target and they lose some and throw a bad ball..

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by SHAMSzy

I don't understand the JG supporters, he has done nothing but make us an average football team with superb talent.

This has nothing do with athleticism or injuries. It has to do with Tony's bravery to throw the ball down the field. He was FEARLESS earlier in his career and that is what made our ball club successful in the 07-09 years. We had at least 3-4 huge plays a game, and at least 2-3 of them were created by Tony. This current team has been awful on offense, absolutely horrid. We have a pool of unbelievable talent, sorry but 15 ppg isn't getting it done and my finger is pointed at JG and JJ. JG for this bland play calling and limiting the offense/Romo, and JJ for refusing to build a real offensive line and resorting to hire Panthers/Bengals crumbs to protect our "franchise" QB.

It's a jab-at-the-coach thread the presupposes Tony Romo has been ruined, which is an idea so half-baked it really shouldn't be taken seriously.

Also, it's happening in regards to the team that's at the top of the NFCE right now the week after a victory.

The issues on offense are straightforward and should be obvious to anybody. And they have nothing to do with the QB being ruined.

[elcowboi]

Originally Posted by SHAMSzy

Is it me or did Red J completely get rid of the Tony Romo that I learned to love from 06-09. Yeah, I understand he made a lot of bonehead mistakes throughout the years, but is that really worse than his mentality now? Romo is a go-getter QB, you need him to make plays he isn't a game manager. I feel like Red J is slowly trying to turn him into a QB like Alex Smith but with more pocket mobility. Like honestly, Romo's talent calls for him to be playing like Favre which he was in the past. Now I don't see the Favre-esque plays and while I know how frustrating it was at times, Romo CARRIED us the majority of the time. We just didn't have much help for him at that time, but now that the defense is looking dominant and we have a stud RB in Demarco, wouldn't it be ideal for Romo to go back to his old gunslinging self where he is always a threat to the D? I feel like our passing game is getting no respect anymore because Tony is so restricted. Maybe I'm just overreacting, but do any of you [View Full Quote]get this feeling too? IDK, sometimes it comes out but only when he is getting pressure and he improvises. In the past, every single play it felt like Tony was gonna light them up. Now, he is so passive with his progressions.. I also feel like this might be a case of not having T.O. anymore, we really really need Dez to produce like T.O. did in his years here.

Go Cowboys

It's you. The line is playing horrible right now. I can't name one QB that would have better stats behind this line. It's only 3 games in. Last year didn't look like he took a step back to me. If the line can just play average, he looks like an elite QB.

[RickMoranis]

Originally Posted by SHAMSzy

Is it me or did Red J completely get rid of the Tony Romo that I learned to love from 06-09. Yeah, I understand he made a lot of bonehead mistakes throughout the years, but is that really worse than his mentality now? Romo is a go-getter QB, you need him to make plays he isn't a game manager. I feel like Red J is slowly trying to turn him into a QB like Alex Smith but with more pocket mobility. Like honestly, Romo's talent calls for him to be playing like Favre which he was in the past. Now I don't see the Favre-esque plays and while I know how frustrating it was at times, Romo CARRIED us the majority of the time. We just didn't have much help for him at that time, but now that the defense is looking dominant and we have a stud RB in Demarco, wouldn't it be ideal for Romo to go back to his old gunslinging self where he is always a threat to the D? I feel like our passing game is getting no respect anymore because Tony is so restricted. Maybe I'm just overreacting, but do any of you [View Full Quote]get this feeling too? IDK, sometimes it comes out but only when he is getting pressure and he improvises. In the past, every single play it felt like Tony was gonna light them up. Now, he is so passive with his progressions.. I also feel like this might be a case of not having T.O. anymore, we really really need Dez to produce like T.O. did in his years here.

Go Cowboys

If by "old gunslinging self" you mean "turnover machine" then no, I don't want him to return to that. Romo is better than ever right now and if I didn't know better I'd say you are trolling and doing a very good job of it.

you serious clark?

[RickMoranis]

if you turn Romo loose like the old days, he will have games like he did against DET last year. Besides, his o-line simply isn't good enough to give him enough time to bomb it down field like he did with TO...If you recall, that year our o-line was actually pretty good.

[CowboyChris]

Originally Posted by VThokie7

Garrett deserves his share of criticism, especially as a playcaller IMO, but he certainly didn't ruin Romo. As you said, he had the best year of his career last season.

VT, you have been on a serious Garrett rant lately, cant say i blame you, it would take a major collaspe by this team for anything to change.

[Vanilla2]

How different would things look around here if these guys were catching the passes that are hitting them in the hands.

Would Garrett still have "ruined" Romo?

This is such a over reactionary fan base it's not even funny.

A lot of you jokers want Witten run out of town for Marty B. as if his time in Dallas never happened.

[Doomsday]

Originally Posted by Vanilla2

How different would things look around here if these guys were catching the passes that are hitting them in the hands.

Would Garrett still have "ruined" Romo?

This is such a over reactionary fan base it's not even funny.

A lot of you jokers want Witten run out of town for Marty B. as if his time in Dallas never happened.

Where are the adjustments? I saw GB make some really nice adjustments offensively when they played Seattle. Where is that from JG?

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Doomsday

Where are the adjustments? I saw GB make some really nice adjustments offensively when they played Seattle. Where is that from JG?

how do you adjust wide open dropped passes? GB adjusted to running the ball because Rodgers was getting the crud kicked out of him. In our only loss the plays were there all it required was WR/TE catching the ball. So why would I call off plays that are there for the taking?

[Doomsday]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

how do you adjust wide open dropped passes? GB adjusted to running the ball because Rodgers was getting the crud kicked out of him. In our only loss the plays were there all it required was WR/TE catching the ball. So why would I call off plays that are there for the taking?

Almost all the drops were in the first half. What about the 2nd half when we scored 0 points? What about last week when they had the ball most of the game and couldnt get on track offensively?

The Packers ran the ball and threw it to the backs as well. They worked the underneath stuff, which is something JG is incapable of doing and the whole NFL knows it.

[TwoDeep3]

Once again, protect Romo and all this goes away.

Funny how there were those that said this all throughout training camp and were lambasted for the mere mention of this.

Protect Romo and he will light up the league.

Buy Walmart linemen and he will run for his life.

This is not calculus.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Doomsday

Almost all the drops were in the first half. What about the 2nd half when we scored 0 points? What about last week when they had the ball most of the game and couldnt get on track offensively?

The Packers ran the ball and threw it to the backs as well. They worked the underneath stuff, which is something JG is incapable of doing and the whole NFL knows it.

Dallas did start hitting plays in the 2nd half of the Tampa game we also continued to commit penalties. Saying JG is incapable sorry not buying that.