Where do you rank Tony Romo out of the 32 starting QBs in the league?

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by tyke1doe

Remember, the knock on Romo is that if he had a better team, he'd advance further in the playoffs.

Guess what? Michael Vick had about as bad a team as Romo has had and got his team to the NFC Championship Game.

And a rusty Vick, albeit healthy, got the Eagles into the playoffs three years ago despite not being helped by Andy Reid.

Yes, I think Vick is a better quarterback than Romo. But like Romo, he takes it upon himself to do more than he should. Andy Reid has a stellar back in LeSean McCoy yet refuses to use him to balance out Vick and his propensity to take a hit and turn the ball over.

But, again, Vick has done more with less than Romo has and has taken his team to the brink of a Super Bowl.

That's your logic that Vick made it to the NFC Championship one time really?

What has he done since? Not a damn thing. He's only made the playoffs a few times since then. You said Flacco isn't better than Romo which is true even though he made it to a conference championship game. Then what exactly is your reasoning for using that same reasoning to you clearly didn't apply to Flacco to Vick? If you're gonna say Vick is better than Romo because he went to a conference championship game than how can you not do the same for Flacco was has actually made two conference championship games?

Bottom line though is Mike Vick has had one good season in the NFL. That one season isn't really better or even close to as good as any of Romo's seasons he's played. You can take Romo's worst season as a pro which is probably 2008 compare it to Vick's and who wins? Romo by a long shot. In their respective careers Romo has 154 touchdown passes compared to Vick's 117. Romo thrown two more picks. He has 80 while Vick has 78. Keep in mind though Tony has thrown the ball more so of course he's gonna have more picks. Tony on his career has 20 more pass attempts. Tony has a phenomenal completion percentage of about 65 while Vick has mediocre and that's being nice completion percentage of 56. Nearly a 10 point difference. Tony also has a QB rating of 96 while Vick only has a QB rating of 80. Tony blows Vick out of the water in every single category essentially.

In short absolutely no argument can be made that Michael Vick is a better quarterback than Tony Romo. Better athlete? Of course. Better quarterback? Hells to the no.

[juck]

1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Rodgers
4. Eli
5. Raper
6. Peyton
7. Matty Ice
8.Schaub
9. Flacco
10. Romo

Although I dont like Alex Smith his 8td to 1 INT ration is pretty darn impressive this year.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by juck

1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Rodgers
4. Eli
5. Raper
6. Peyton
7. Matty Ice
8.Schaub
9. Flacco
10. Romo

Although I dont like Alex Smith his 8td to 1 INT ration is pretty darn impressive this year.

Not a bad list at least the first half of it. Still think putting Flacco, Ryan, or Schuab over Tony is ridiculous, but hey at least you didn't put Mike freaking Vick over him. That is just ridiculous right there. Always cracks me up when you say Raper lol.

[juck]

Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

Not a bad list at least the first half of it. Still think putting Flacco, Ryan, or Schuab over Tony is ridiculous, but hey at least you didn't put Mike freaking Vick over him. That is just ridiculous right there. Always cracks me up when you say Raper lol.

Ive met the Raper a few times. Complete RichardHead.

[bigdnlaca]

Originally Posted by juck

1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Rodgers
4. Eli
5. Raper
6. Peyton
7. Matty Ice
8.Schaub
9. Flacco
10. Romo

Although I dont like Alex Smith his 8td to 1 INT ration is pretty darn impressive this year.

Flacco is not better than Romo or Rivers

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by juck

Ive met the Raper a few times. Complete RichardHead.

Really? What'd you say to him?

[EPL0c0]

i'd rather not say... people freak out if you don't put Romo in the top 15.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by EPL0c0

i'd rather not say... people freak out if you don't put Romo in the top 15.

Because he's easily a top 10 quarterback and anyone who says anything different shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Dash28]

Originally Posted by tyke1doe

I'd rank Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Michael Vick and Jay Cutler above Tony Romo.

I'd put Tony Romo on the same level as Matt Ryan and Matt Schaub as of right now.

Vick and Cutler?

Don't agree with Rivers too.

[Gemini Dolly]

Originally Posted by EPL0c0

i'd rather not say... people freak out if you don't put Romo in the top 15.

Do you have him below 15?

[DMAC]

Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

That's your logic that Vick made it to the NFC Championship one time really?

What has he done since? Not a damn thing. He's only made the playoffs a few times since then. You said Flacco isn't better than Romo which is true even though he made it to a conference championship game. Then what exactly is your reasoning for using that same reasoning to you clearly didn't apply to Flacco to Vick? If you're gonna say Vick is better than Romo because he went to a conference championship game than how can you not do the same for Flacco was has actually made two conference championship games?

[View Full Quote]Bottom line though is Mike Vick has had one good season in the NFL. That one season isn't really better or even close to as good as any of Romo's seasons he's played. You can take Romo's worst season as a pro which is probably 2008 compare it to Vick's and who wins? Romo by a long shot. In their respective careers Romo has 154 touchdown passes compared to Vick's 117. Romo thrown two more picks. He has 80 while Vick has 78. Keep in mind though Tony has thrown the ball more so of course he's gonna have more picks. Tony on his career has 20 more pass attempts. Tony has a phenomenal completion percentage of about 65 while Vick has mediocre and that's being nice completion percentage of 56. Nearly a 10 point difference. Tony also has a QB rating of 96 while Vick only has a QB rating of 80. Tony blows Vick out of the water in every single category essentially.

In short absolutely no argument can be made that Michael Vick is a better quarterback than Tony Romo. Better athlete? Of course. Better quarterback? Hells to the no.

I hate Vick. And I believe Romo is a much better QB than Vick ever was, or ever will be. But Vick and Romo play two different styles, so passing stats are not necessarily apples to apples. You seem to always confuse passing stats with the greatness of a QB. There is MUCH more to being a championship QB than passing stats.

You WILL figure that out one day, as you understand more of what you see.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by DMAC

I hate Vick. And I believe Romo is a much better QB than Vick ever was, or ever will be. But Vick and Romo play two different styles, so passing stats are not necessarily apples to apples. You seem to always confuse passing stats with the greatness of a QB. There is MUCH more to being a championship QB than passing stats.

You WILL figure that out one day, as you understand more of what you see.

We're talking about who's the better quarterback which Tony unquestionably is. We're not talking about who's better running with the football or who's the better athlete. If you read my entire post I said very clearly that Vick is the superior athlete, but once again that's not what we're arguing here. We're arguing who is the better NFL quarterback and in that aspect Vick can't hold Tony's jockstrap.

[DMAC]

Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

We're talking about who's the better quarterback which Tony unquestionably is. We're not talking about who's better running with the football or who's the better athlete. If you read my entire post I said very clearly that Vick is the superior athlete, but once again that's not what we're arguing here. We're arguing who is the better NFL quarterback and in that aspect Vick can't hold Tony's jockstrap.

So to you, an NFL QB is simply a thrower of a ball, and should be ranked soley on his completion percentage or number of TD passes?

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by DMAC

So to you, an NFL QB is simply a thrower of a ball, and should be ranked soley on his completion percentage or number of TD passes?

Lets just say I'd rather who can throw the ball effectively and is mobile than a guy who can't throw the ball effectively at all on a consistent basis and is a running back essentially.

[DMAC]

Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

Lets just say I'd rather who can throw the ball effectively and is mobile than a guy who can't throw the ball effectively at all on a consistent basis and is a running back essentially.

So would I, and that is why I say Romo is much better than Vick. But again, to be elite, he has some issue between his ears he needs to fix.