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10-10-2012
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Unfriendly and Aloof!
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2013 MLB Free Agent List
CatchersRod Barajas (37) - $3.5MM club option, no buyout
Henry Blanco (41) - $1.24MM mutual option
Gerald Laird (33)
Russell Martin (30)
Brian McCann (29) - $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jose Molina (37) - $1.5MM club option with a $300K buyout
Mike Napoli (31)
Miguel Olivo (34) - $3MM club option with a $750K buyout
Ronny Paulino (32)
A.J. Pierzynski (36)
Humberto Quintero (33)
David Ross (36)
Carlos Ruiz (34) - $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Brian Schneider (36)
Kelly Shoppach (33)
Chris Snyder (32) - $4MM mutual option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
Yorvit Torrealba (34)
Matt Treanor (37) First basemenLance Berkman (36)
Jason Giambi (42)
Eric Hinske (35)
Aubrey Huff (36) - $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Casey Kotchman (30)
Adam LaRoche (33) - $10MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Carlos Lee (37)
James Loney (29)
Xavier Nady (34)
Mike Napoli (31)
Lyle Overbay (36)
Carlos Pena (35)
Ty Wigginton (35) - $4MM club option with a $500K buyout
Second basemenJeff Baker (32)
Robinson Cano (30) - $15MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Mike Fontenot (33)
Orlando Hudson (35) - $8MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Maicer Izturis (32)
Kelly Johnson (31)
Adam Kennedy (37)
Jeff Keppinger (33)
Jose Lopez (29)
Ryan Theriot (33) ShortstopsJason Bartlett (33)
Yuniesky Betancourt (31)
Brian Bixler (30)
Ronny Cedeno (30)
Stephen Drew (30) - $10MM mutual option with a $1.35MM buyout
Alberto Gonzalez (30)
Alex Gonzalez (35) - $4MM vesting option. Details here.
Cesar Izturis (33)
Jhonny Peralta (31) - $6MM club option with a $500K buyout
Marco Scutaro (37) Third basemenMiguel Cairo (39)
Eric Chavez (35)
Mark DeRosa (38)
Alberto Gonzalez (30)
Brandon Inge (36)
Maicer Izturis (32)
Jose Lopez (29)
Placido Polanco (37) - $5.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Scott Rolen (38)
Drew Sutton (30)
Ty Wigginton (35) - $4MM club option with a $500K buyout
David Wright (30) - $16MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Kevin Youkilis (34) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout Left fieldersTravis Buck (29)
Melky Cabrera (28)
Jonny Gomes (32)
Scott Hairston (33)
Josh Hamilton (32)
Eric Hinske (35)
Reed Johnson (36)
Andruw Jones (36)
Austin Kearns (33)
Carlos Lee (37)
Ryan Ludwick (34) - $5MM mutual option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
Darnell McDonald (34)
Juan Pierre (35)
Juan Rivera (34) - $4MM club option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
Drew Sutton (30)
Delmon Young (27) Center fieldersAlfredo Amezaga (35)
Rick Ankiel (33)
Michael Bourn (30)
Curtis Granderson (32) - $15MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Scott Hairston (33)
Mitch Maier (31)
Angel Pagan (31)
Cody Ross (32)
Grady Sizemore (30)
B.J. Upton (28)
Shane Victorino (32) Right fieldersBrian Bixler (30)
Travis Buck (29)
Matt Diaz (35)
Kosuke Fukudome (36)
Torii Hunter (37)
Andruw Jones (36)
Ryan Ludwick (34) - $5MM mutual option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
Xavier Nady (34)
Juan Rivera (34) - $4MM club option for 2013 with a $500K buyout
Cody Ross (32)
Ichiro Suzuki (39)
Nick Swisher (32)
Designated hittersBobby Abreu (39)
Johnny Damon (39)
Travis Hafner (36) - $13MM club option with a $2.75MM buyout
Raul Ibanez (41)
Hideki Matsui (39)
David Ortiz (38)
Luke Scott (35) - $6MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jim Thome (42)
Delmon Young (27)
Starting pitchersScott Baker (31) - $9.25MM club option
Erik Bedard (34)
Joe Blanton (32)
Bartolo Colon (40)
Aaron Cook (34)
Kevin Correia (32)
Jorge De La Rosa (32) - $11MM player option with a $1MM buyout
Ryan Dempster (36)
R.A. Dickey (38) - $5MM club option with a $300K buyout
Scott Feldman (29) - $9.25MM club option with a $600K buyout
Jeff Francis (32)
Gavin Floyd (30) - $9.5MM club option
Freddy Garcia (37)
Zack Greinke (28)
Jeremy Guthrie (34)
Rich Harden (31)
Dan Haren (32) - $15.5MM club option with a $3.5MM buyout
Roberto Hernandez (32) - $9MM club option
Tim Hudson (37) - $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Edwin Jackson (29)
Hiroki Kuroda (38)
Francisco Liriano (29)
Kyle Lohse (34)
Derek Lowe (40)
Paul Maholm (31) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Shaun Marcum (31)
Jason Marquis (34)
Daisuke Matsuzaka (32)
Brandon McCarthy (29)
Kevin Millwood (38)
Jamie Moyer (50)
Roy Oswalt (35)
Carl Pavano (37)
Jake Peavy (31) - $22MM club option with a $4MM buyout
Anibal Sanchez (29)
Jonathan Sanchez (30)
Ervin Santana (30) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Joe Saunders (32)
James Shields (31) - $9MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Carlos Villanueva (29)
Chien-Ming Wang (33)
Kip Wells (36)
Randy Wolf (36)
Chris Young (34)
Carlos Zambrano (32) ClosersGrant Balfour (35) - $4.5MM club option with a $350K buyout
Jonathan Broxton (29)
Matt Capps (29) - $6MM club option with a $250K buyout
Brandon League (30)
Ryan Madson (32) - $11MM mutual option with a $2.5MM buyout
Brett Myers (32) - $10MM vesting option with a $3MM buyout
J.J. Putz (36) - $6.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Mariano Rivera (43)
Fernando Rodney (36) - $2.5MM club option with a $250K buyout
Joakim Soria (29) - $8MM club option with a $750K buyout
Jose Valverde (35) Right-handed relieversJeremy Accardo (31)
Mike Adams (34)
Luis Ayala (35)
Miguel Batista (42)
Shawn Camp (37)
Todd Coffey (32) - $2.5M club option for 2013 with a $300K buyout
Francisco Cordero (38)
Juan Cruz (34)
Octavio Dotel (39) - $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Chad Durbin (35)
Kyle Farnsworth (37)
Jason Frasor (35)
Kevin Gregg (35)
Jason Grilli (36)
LaTroy Hawkins (38)
Clay Hensley (33)
Livan Hernandez (38)
Bobby Jenks (32)
Brad Lidge (36)
Matt Lindstrom (33) - $4MM club option with a $200K buyout
Derek Lowe (40)
Mark Lowe (30)
Brandon Lyon (33)
Guillermo Mota (39)
Juan Carlos Oviedo (29)
Vicente Padilla (35)
Brad Penny (35)
Joel Peralta (37)
Chad Qualls (34)
Ramon Ramirez (31)
Jon Rauch (34)
Francisco Rodriguez (31)
Takashi Saito (43)
Rafael Soriano (33) - $14MM player option or a $1.5MM buyout
Koji Uehara (38)
Carlos Villanueva (29)
Randy Wells (30)
Jamey Wright (38) Left-handed relieversJeremy Affeldt (34)
Sean Burnett (30) - $3.5MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
Tim Byrdak (39)
Randy Choate (37)
Pedro Feliciano (35) - $4.5MM club option
Brian Fuentes (37) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Mike Gonzalez (35)
Alex Hinshaw (30)
J.P. Howell (28)
Will Ohman (35)
Darren Oliver (42) - $3MM club option with a $500K buyout
J.C. Romero (37)
Hisanori Takahashi (38)
Formerly the notorious nyc!
I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!
There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.
If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.
Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
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10-10-2012
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Senior Member
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Wonder if theres a chance the Skankees let Granderson go. Id like Johnny Gomes too. As far as outfield goes. Hambone is a goner.
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10-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juck
Wonder if theres a chance the Skankees let Granderson go. Id like Johnny Gomes too. As far as outfield goes. Hambone is a goner.
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No chance but you would not want any of those guys anyway. You don't like guys who chase money or rings.
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10-11-2012
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Penguinite
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BJ Upton is the Hamilton replacement I hope.
Profar is too good (of both an athlete and a financial value) not to be on the field somewhere.
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10-11-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jterrell
BJ Upton is the Hamilton replacement I hope.
Profar is too good (of both an athlete and a financial value) not to be on the field somewhere.
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I like BJ Upton a lot but if you went with Upton, you would be giving up a lot of power. Hamilton hits the long ball well and he produces a lot of RBIs.
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10-11-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
No chance but you would not want any of those guys anyway. You don't like guys who chase money or rings.
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Granderson was traded to the Skankees,check ur facts before u call someone out. Jonny Gomes is far from a ringchaser.
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10-11-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
I like BJ Upton a lot but if you went with Upton, you would be giving up a lot of power. Hamilton hits the long ball well and he produces a lot of RBIs.
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You are going to give up power and pure ability no matter what player you choose.
Upton is a young, quality player who will fit perfectly in centerfield.
You move Kinsler to the outfield and place Profar at second. Very workable imho.
The Rangers relied way too much on power this year. They need to get back to the antlers.
Upton strikes out a lot but he hits 25+ homers with 30+ steals and rates top 5 as a defensive center fielder. That's a winning player.
Hamilton wants 20+m per year and can fall apart at any time.
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10-11-2012
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Unfriendly and Aloof!
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Personally, I would rather Leonys Martín be able to step up and take center field. There are still questions about his ability on offense, but defensively. He will be a star.
Either way, there is no one person that can replace Hamilton's offense. I would rather not break the bank paying someone who definitely isn't going to replace Hamilton. (ala end up with a Carl Crawford type deal)
I would definitely rather spend my money on pitching if that is the case. The Michael Young deal is very much hurting the Rangers and I suspect at some point the Kinsler deal will too. Let's not add to that by signing BJ Upton to some crazy contract.
IMO, try to sign Hamilton for 3 years $25M/yr. If doesn't want that, then 5 years at $20M. If that isn't good enough, let him walk. Hell, I'm iffy about the 5 year deal.
Formerly the notorious nyc!
I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!
There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.
If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.
Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
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10-11-2012
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Chicks dig crutches
Joined: | Nov 2004 |
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The catchers list is a whose who of former Rangers
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10-11-2012
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Unfriendly and Aloof!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboyeric8
The catchers list is a whose who of former Rangers
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 I noticed that too.
Formerly the notorious nyc!
I've got more red flags than Soviet Russia!
There is a good chance that you don't like me, but there is a better chance that I don't care.
If I'm not insulting you, I'm probably not aware that you exist.
Jerry Jones in the draft room is suicide on the football field. The line of scrimmage is EVERYTHING. Something Jerry doesn't understand.
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10-11-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juck
Granderson was traded to the Skankees,check ur facts before u call someone out. Jonny Gomes is far from a ringchaser.
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You have no grasp of anything at all. I know he was traded to the Yankees, from Detroit. I'm a Yankee fan. Of course I know this. However, I'm not the one wetting the bed over guys going to teams to try and win rings or whatever.
If you need facts, go back and read your post on Nash, #33 in the 2012-2013 NBA Thread. The facts, as you say, are in your own words.
You won't be interested in any players from other teams. That would make you too much like a Yankee fan.
At least be consistent.
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10-11-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jterrell
You are going to give up power and pure ability no matter what player you choose.
Upton is a young, quality player who will fit perfectly in centerfield.
You move Kinsler to the outfield and place Profar at second. Very workable imho.
The Rangers relied way too much on power this year. They need to get back to the antlers.
Upton strikes out a lot but he hits 25+ homers with 30+ steals and rates top 5 as a defensive center fielder. That's a winning player.
Hamilton wants 20+m per year and can fall apart at any time.
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I don't have a problem with Upton, as I said earlier. I like him. I just don't think you can allow Hamilton to leave and replace him with Upton. The other moves you mention here were not in the previous post and you would still have to get Upton.
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10-11-2012
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Chicks dig crutches
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam I Am
 I noticed that too.
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And Wash would probably start them all in the playoffs even if their average was .175
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10-11-2012
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Penguinite
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
I don't have a problem with Upton, as I said earlier. I like him. I just don't think you can allow Hamilton to leave and replace him with Upton. The other moves you mention here were not in the previous post and you would still have to get Upton.
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Hamilton is gone period.
Upton would be his replacement in that he would be a starting outfielder and every day player. He'd bring the same arm and much more base-running skill with far less pure power.
But anyone buying Hamilton is paying for a lot of crazy. He folds mentally at the drop of a dime. He has the weirdest issues you've ever heard of. Like dropping snuff after years of use mid-season because of an out of the blue religious conviction. He is simply too high maintenance to deal with as a top 10 salary as well.
You win baseball games with good defense and pitching backed by timely hitting and good base-running. You do not need a line up that finishes at the top in homers.
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10-12-2012
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I'd take BJ Upton happily. He's obviously not going to replace Hamilton but the Rangers aren't going to find anyone in free agency to replace that. It's Beltre's team now for the next few years before Profar takes over as the new franchise player.
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