Ware not ranked in top 20 pass rushers so far

[CyberB0b]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

You guys all realize this list is only based on production THIS SEASON SO FAR. 5 games (or 4).

It isn't a list of the best all time pass rushers, or the best active pass rushers..its a list of who the most effective have been so far this year based on actual production.

Good golly.. lol.

Yet Ware has 5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles in 4 games.

[Kilyin]

Originally Posted by Gameover

Long season ahead... I smell a 4-12 season.

Might just be the diarrhea that comes out of your mouth on a regular basis that you're smelling.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

Yet Ware has 5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles in 4 games.

Yeah I'm talking about this year too.

Ware hasn't been one of the top 20 pass rushers in the league so far this year.

Complete garbage.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

Yet Ware has 5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles in 4 games.

Its not based on just sacks! Does anyone even bother to read the articles before you comment on them or do you just skim the headline and rage out?

Good Lord, maybe our fanbase is dumb. They arn't ranking or grading the players. This isn't a list of the best pass rushers of all time, or even a list of the best active pass rushers. Its simply a list of:

total snaps rushing the passer/sacks+(qb hits +pressures).75= production so far.

Its not grading anyone, not taking into account double teams, offensive schemes, etc.. just a simple, straightforward formula for adding up production numbers so far through 5 games.

Nothing for people to get their jockeys in a knot over..

[burmafrd]

Pressures- total garbage stat

What is pressure to ONE QB is not to another. It is a subjective stat and thus unreliable.

[CyberB0b]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

They arn't ranking or grading the players.

Yes, they are. See at the top of the graph, it says "rank". They are ranking their productivity, ie, ranking the players.

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

total snaps rushing the passer/sacks+(qb hits +pressures).75= production so far.

Its not grading anyone,

Yes, it is. See above.

They are using a flawed formula to rank pass rushing productivity.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

Yes, they are. See at the top of the graph, it says "rank". They are ranking their productivity, ie, ranking the players.

Exactly.. they are ranking players productivity through 5 games this year.

Not ranking who the best pass rushers are in the league right now, not active, not all time, not taking into account double teams, scheming against certain players, etc..

All they are showing you is based on the amount of time each player rushes the passes, who has the most pressures, sacks, and QB hits, so far.

Again, nothing for people to get their panties in a bunch over..

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Pressures- total garbage stat

What is pressure to ONE QB is not to another. It is a subjective stat and thus unreliable.

I agree its a subjective stat.. no argument there. I think anything that makes the QB hurry or have to adjust his position (avoid the rush or scramble out) would be considered a pressure to me. However, there's no way the same person is watching each game and noting the pressure stats, so there's bound to be a human error margain to it.

The point was that this isn't some definitive list of who the best pass rushers in the league are.. and the only ones upset are the people taking it that way. Granted the OP didn't help either with his sensationalist headline, so the people that didn't go any further in reading the actual article are probably the most upset.

[JohnsKey19]

They could rank Ware at 50 and i wouldn't care. As long as Ware is healthy and continues to do what he's done over the years, he's a force. The problem however, is what we're getting or not getting from the rest of the DL/LBs in the pass rush. Those are the guys that are killing us. We have too many guys who get blocked and cant get off leaving a clean pocket. Most other teams may not have a Ware-type player but they have multiple guys in the pass rush who can at least get off blocks quickly disturbing the pocket which overall is more effective.