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Old 10-16-2012   #1
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Default Holmgren out in Cleveland
No surprise here.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...eave-cleveland

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New Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam, whose takeover of the team was officially approved Tuesday, will name Joe Banner the team's CEO/president and current president Mike Holmgren will depart the organization within 24 hours, sources told ESPN NFL Insider Ed Werder.
I think Holmgren is terrible as a personnel guy.
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Old 10-16-2012   #2
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I'm guessing he will retire? Seems like he was about to when he took the GM job there.
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Old 10-16-2012   #3
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No surprise here.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...eave-cleveland



I think Holmgren is terrible as a personnel guy.
Yep, once he moved up from just being a coach, his performance suffered a bunch. And just look at his Seattle drafts for some serious disappointment.

But hey, he was a real football guy....
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Jerry is said to like him. Wonder if he minds punching a time clock.
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But hey, he was a real football guy....
Ouch...you just hurt some feelings around here with that one.
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No way does holmgren play second fiddle to the Princeton grad.
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Default Mike Holmgren to be replaced by Joe Banner after season
Browns' Holmgren out; sale approved

pdated Oct 16, 2012 1:41 PM ET



New Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam isn't wasting time rebuilding his moribund franchise.

Shortly after his takeover was officially approved by NFL owners on Tuesday, Haslam will remove current team president Mike Holmgren and replace him with former Eagles CEO Joe Banner.

Haslam confirmed in a Tuesday news conference that Holmgren will leave the Browns organization at the end of the season and will retire.

"We are going to bring in Joe Banner," said Haslam, adding that Holmgren and Banner would work together on the transition. "Joe will be the CEO of the team, and that will be effective on Oct. 25.

"He will be in charge of the daily operations of the organization. Football will report to Joe. We will be heavily involved."

Haslam was asked whether he tried to talk Holmgren from an ourtright retirement from the Browns' organization.

"Mike had exactly in his mind what he wants to do, what he wants to do with the rest of his life," said Haslam, who confirmed the talks to replace Holmgren had been ongoing for some time but ramped up Sunday night as the move was being finalized within the organization.

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I think drafting a 28yr old soon to be 29yr old in the 1st rd, was the final nail.
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I think drafting a 28yr old soon to be 29yr old in the 1st rd, was the final nail.
Screwing up and not making the trade to get RG3 when he had all that ammo is where he really screwed up.

Seriously, all he got out of that Julio Jones trade with Atlanta was Brandon Weeden?
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bring him to dallas!!!!
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Don't even get your hopes up, guys....we're stuck with Jerry and Jason.
It's a new season, let's go!
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Don't even get your hopes up, guys....we're stuck with Jerry and Jason.
Hopes up as in jerry doesn't trade half the roster and the next three years first round picks to get him.
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Don't even get your hopes up, guys....we're stuck with Jerry and Jason.
Holgrem has been a terrible GM wasting the #7 pick on Korin Robinson when everyone with a brain new he was a bust waiting to happen because of all the red flags.

Then he has been terrible at Cleveland

Now if you are talking about as a consultant to give advice to Jason great or as a Football Operations guy great but anything to do with picking players pass the guy sucked. You ***** about Jerry's picks while Holgrem has been bad or worse than Jerry
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So, I guess the Browns are going to be starting over. Again.
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