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10-31-2012
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#16
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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88
"Romo doesn't have to be the reason the Cowboys win the game but he can't be the reason why they LOSE the game."
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That is a ridiculous statement in the current NFL. How many games are won when the QB has a bad game? Not many.
More games are lost when your QB is having a good game than games are won when your QB is having a bad game.
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10-31-2012
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#17
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Here's a reply from another thread, to the OP, that went ignored.
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Originally Posted by D29Murray
We've lost 4 games. The Bears game, I'll give you.
Did he lose the Seattle game? No.
Did he lose the Baltimore game? No.
Did he lose the New York game? Debatable.
Before you jump on me about the last one... When it all came down to the most deciding moments of the game where we, after we (BOTH sides of the ball) fought to come back: 1st & 1, 2nd & 1, 3rd & 1, 4th & 1... Punt Return Fumbled, Felix Jones Fumble... we were damn sure in position to win that game. That wasn't lost, in those moments, because of Romo.
Romo put is in a hole, but he overcame that.
Do I like turnovers? Heck no. Not unless it's my team generating them on Defense... but if we're going to have them, and we are, I want to see the player(s) fight back to make up for it.
Romo did his damnedest.
[View Full Quote]Perfect example: The Panthers game. I wasn't fuming at Miles for fumbling. Why? Cause he came back and made up for it with amazing catches when we most needed them.
There is A LOT wrong with this team, but it most certainly is not all at the QB position.
Hopefully my stance on it was clear enough, if you even care.
Just thought I'd try to insert some logic, though.
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It's time for fans to stop hating and come to the
realization that Romo is a great QB. It's time to stop
with the ignorant cliches, and realize that using a
"botched FG" as an excuse to equate that mistake to
Romo's QBing abilities. - D29Murray
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10-31-2012
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#18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I don't. He came in trade and played enough of his career here. Plus, three rings doesn't hurt.
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Good point.
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10-31-2012
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#19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zman5
That is a ridiculous statement in the current NFL. How many games are won when the QB has a bad game? Not many.
More games are lost when your QB is having a good game than games are won when your QB is having a bad game.
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No Interceptions?
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10-31-2012
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#20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muck4doo
Good point.
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Plus did you see his reaction when he was put in the ROH? You can't tell me that didn't mean the world to him. He was like a kid in a candy store.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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10-31-2012
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#21
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6 Million Light-years beyond believability.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88
"Romo doesn't have to be the reason the Cowboys win the game but he can't be the reason why they LOSE the game."
Nobody expects Romo to have a good game every week but we do expect to see no turnovers and not 5 Int's. And that's why Steve Young's statement was so true because in this league you cannot give games away which is something Romo has been doing lately. No QB in the NFL is eligible for an extension when they have the most INT's in the league.
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Other than the Bears game ( & maybe the Seahawks ) Romo hasn't been costing this team games. A fingertip & an FG cost us 2 games.
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10-31-2012
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#22
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The funny thing is Romo and Young were both similar players. Mobile QB's with good arms that tried to force a lot of things. Young forgets how he never sold the home crowd over Montana until DeBartolo cheated the salary cap to buy him that SB in 1994. Steve was gracious enough to compliment the Cowboys after that NFC championship game, but that still doesn't excuse that the 94 49ers cheated. He should have been the 49ers Danny White, and Aikman should have had 4 SB wins.
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10-31-2012
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#23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
Plus did you see his reaction when he was put in the ROH? You can't tell me that didn't mean the world to him. He was like a kid in a candy store.
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He's one of my all time fave Cowboys, and I love him being there. I was wondering if people looked at him like other added vets. 5 SB rings and not in the HOF? Ridiculous, but so was Haley.
/Long live The Last Naked Warrior!
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10-31-2012
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#24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muck4doo
He's one of my all time fave Cowboys, and I love him being there. I was wondering if people looked at him like other added vets. 5 SB rings and not in the HOF? Ridiculous, but so was Haley.
/Long live The Last Naked Warrior!
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I think most fans prefer the lifetime Cowboys. Harvey Martin will always be a more popular Cowboy.
But I don't think people consider him a hired gun like they do Deion.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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10-31-2012
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Warrior
Other than the Bears game ( & maybe the Seahawks ) Romo hasn't been costing this team games. A fingertip & an FG cost us 2 games.
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Since we are at -11 TO and he is credited with 15 of the 19 TO he is a big culprit
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government."
Thomas Paine
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10-31-2012
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I think most fans prefer the lifetime Cowboys. Harvey Martin will always be a more popular Cowboy.
But I don't think people consider him a hired gun like they do Deion.
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He had a genuine hate for Seifert and Young. He came in glad to be a Cowboy and wanting to take the 49ers down. I lived in the Bay Area at the time, and the Young/Montana controversy was dividing all in 49er land. Haley was mad that Young started dividing the locker room as soon as he came in, and kept whining that he should be the starter over this "Montana" guy.
Last edited by muck4doo : 10-31-2012 at 08:37 PM.
Reason: Bad english
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10-31-2012
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#27
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I've got moxie
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Originally Posted by Bill Parcells
1. Press or t.v., agents or advisors, family or wives, friends or relatives, fans or hangers on, ignore them on matters of football, they don’t know what’s happening here.
2. Don’t forget to have fun, but don’t be the class clown. Clowns and leaders don’t mix. Clowns can’t run a huddle.
3. A quarterback throws with his legs more than his arms. Squat and run. Fat quarterbacks can’t avoid the rush.
4. Know your job cold. This is not a game without errors. Keep yours to a minimum. Study.
5. Know your own players. Who’s fast? Who can catch? Who needs encouragement? Be precise. Know your opponent.
6. Be the same guy everyday. In condition, preparing to lead, studying your plan. A coach can’t prepare you for every eventuality. Prepare yourself and remember, impulse decisions usually equal mistakes.
[View Full Quote]7. Throwing the ball away is a good play. Sacks, interceptions, and fumbles are bad plays..Protect against those.
8. You must learn to manage the game. Personnel, play call, motions, ball handling, proper reads, accurate throws, play fakes. Clock, clock, clock, don’t you ever lose track of the clock.
9. Passing stats and td passes are not how you’re gonna be judged. Your job is to get your team in the endzone and that’s how you’re gonna be judged.
10. When all around you is in chaos, you must be the hand that steers the ship. If you have a panic button, so will everyone else. Our ship can’t have panic buttons.
11. Don’t be a celebrity quarterback. We don’t need any of those. We need battlefield commanders that are willing to fight it out everyday, every week, and every season, and lead their team to win after win after win
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Romo might want to dig these out again.
He could use a strong influence guiding him again. I don't think Wilson or Garrett is providing that right now.
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10-31-2012
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muck4doo
The funny thing is Romo and Young were both similar players. Mobile QB's with good arms that tried to force a lot of things. Young forgets how he never sold the home crowd over Montana until DeBartolo cheated the salary cap to buy him that SB in 1994. Steve was gracious enough to compliment the Cowboys after that NFC championship game, but that still doesn't excuse that the 94 49ers cheated. He should have been the 49ers Danny White, and Aikman should have had 4 SB wins.
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Exactly. He had a big monkey on his back for long time. In fact he jokes about that when the Whiners were just about to win the SB.
And all this while throwing it to Rice and Taylor. Not Dez and Austin.
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10-31-2012
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#29
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The problem is not just this year..... Stats do NOT lie. Since 2006 the Cowboys have won only 1 playoff game and yes that is with ROMO.
I am sorry. I have been a Cowboy's fan  since the days of Craig Morton. I was in Washington when the Redskins won the SB and we were 1-15. I went down to the Mall dressed in my Cowboy attire.
But ROMO HAS TO GO. For me it comes down to one word: LEADERSHIP.
He doesn't have it. I know there are issues with the line, with RB's and even on defense. But it comes down to Leadership. I have been so frustrated  and this past week made me sick. It looked as if several of the players didn't even care at the start of the game...... I am sorry but Romo HAS to go... 
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10-31-2012
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#30
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6 Million Light-years beyond believability.
Joined: | Aug 2007 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kangaroo
Since we are at -11 TO and he is credited with 15 of the 19 TO he is a big culprit
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Aside from the Bears game, ( & somewhat the Seahawks game ), none of those TOs cost us the game.
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