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04-16-2013
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Reports: "Major" Recruiting Violations at Oregon under Chip Kelly
Reports: 'Major' violations occurred
Updated: April 16, 2013, 10:21 AM ET
ESPN.com news services
Documents released by the University of Oregon show the school and the NCAA agree "major" violations were committed by the football program, both The Oregonian and Portland, Ore., television station KATU reported Monday.
The documents focus heavily on Will Lyles, who ran a recruiting and scouting service and has been widely reported to be at the center of the investigation, according to the reports. Most of the alleged violations cited occurred during the tenure of former Ducks coach Chip Kelly, who left Oregon in January to become the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Read the rest: http://espn.go.com/college-football/...otball-program
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Another Pete Carrol 2.0, as in jumping to the NFL all of a sudden?
Everybody's got a price, for The Billion Dollar Man!
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Oregon reporting major violation in football
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 27m
University of Oregon reports a major violation in football recruiting, such that Chip Kelly cares http://wp.me/p14QSB-8gyG
Michael David Smith @MichaelDavSmith 44m
Chip Kelly left Oregon just in time to avoid consequences of the NCAA rules his program broke. College coaching is quite a racket.
Robert Littal @BlkSportsOnline 45m
Chip Kelly took the Carroll way out, but nothing you can do about it now. Only the kids get punished
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Good. Yet another reason to dislike the Eagles.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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what are the colleges doing about this?
i want to see all the colleges start looking into this and flushing out the bad. they have NO problem, let me repeat, ZERO concern when they are winning. I say good for Oregon to agree and make with the investigations, but now its time to rip over the other programs and start saying "we are taking this serious" and if schools have to lose money over this, so be it.
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Originally Posted by ShiningStar
what are the colleges doing about this?
i want to see all the colleges start looking into this and flushing out the bad. they have NO problem, let me repeat, ZERO concern when they are winning. I say good for Oregon to agree and make with the investigations, but now its time to rip over the other programs and start saying "we are taking this serious" and if schools have to lose money over this, so be it.
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Colleges can't do much about this. It's the NCAA that needs to fix this but they won't because it's about money. Chip Kelly, like a lot of other high profile coaches and programs, bring in a lot of money for the NCAA. They cheat up a storm and go to bowl games and win consistently. It's not until the program starts to decline or the HC moves on or sometimes both, that the NCAA gets interested in what's been going on at certain programs.
It's a scam IMO.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
Colleges can't do much about this. It's the NCAA that needs to fix this but they won't because it's about money. Chip Kelly, like a lot of other high profile coaches and programs, bring in a lot of money for the NCAA. They cheat up a storm and go to bowl games and win consistently. It's not until the program starts to decline or the HC moves on or sometimes both, that the NCAA gets interested in what's been going on at certain programs.
It's a scam IMO.
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thank you for that. I was hoping the colleges and universities could start cleaning up their own messes, but the fact is you are correct, it is about the money.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShiningStar
thank you for that. I was hoping the colleges and universities could start cleaning up their own messes, but the fact is you are correct, it is about the money.
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Emmert made a career of bailing out just before the crash and has risen to the top of the NCAA sewage plant. Of course others are going to follow his lead.
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Sanka, Ya Dead Mon? Ya Mon.
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Oregon has the biggest booster in all of college football, so this doesn't surprise me one bit.
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Are they going to follow the Lyles trail to the other schools that paid him to pay recruits? This guy is as dirty as it gets.
You can't spell bias without BS.
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The documents focus heavily on Will Lyles
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Not a shock whatsoever.
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I don't know why the NCAA keeps up this farce. Just make it legal and get it out in the open. It won't change much that is already happening.
By what right? By What code? By what Standard? ~Atlas Shrugged
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Originally Posted by RastaRocket
Oregon has the biggest booster in all of college football, so this doesn't surprise me one bit.
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what is the benefit to BEING a booster? i know they give money and goods to players but how does the benefit the booster himself? i was a little lost with the whole Shipiro thing with the U. can someone enlighten me?
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Originally Posted by Supercowboy1986
what is the benefit to BEING a booster? i know they give money and goods to players but how does the benefit the booster himself? i was a little lost with the whole Shipiro thing with the U. can someone enlighten me?
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The booster for Oregon is the owner of Nike, Phil Knight; which is why they have crazy uniforms all the time. Sports Illustrated had a good article on him a while back. Basically, he is just so rich he made Oregon his toy; that is the benefit of being a booster I guess.
Full Article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ght/index.html
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Knight's influence on Oregon is so great that calling him a booster is like calling the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff a concerned citizen. Without Knight, Oregon would be thrilled to go to the Holiday Bowl. Without Knight, Oregon would be asking for money instead of printing it.
Without Knight, Oregon would be ... (gasp!) Oregon State.
Knight holds the key to Oregon athletics in his wallet, and everybody there knows it. The new basketball gym -- Matthew Knight Arena, named after Phil's late son -- is his project. The school's uniforms, more than any other team's, are a billboard for his company, Nike. There is a sense that every new building and every important hire needs Knight's stamp of approval. [View Full Quote]Knight graduated from Oregon, but so much of his spending in Eugene is not about education. It isn't even really about athletics, because let's face it: After you spend your first $100 million or so, you probably have all the jockstraps and barbells you need.
No, most of Knight's spending is about recruiting. He spends to excess in order to impress high school kids. In the mixed-up world of the NCAA, schools can spend $50 million on gold-plated mouthpiece holders, but if they give a kid $1,000 to pay his mom's mortgage, it's a violation.
Knight has poured tens of millions of dollars into what amounts to makeup and jewelry for the athletic department. Consider the size and cost of new academic-support buildings at three big-time schools:
Miami, under construction now: 30,000 square feet, $13.6 million.
Michigan, completed in the winter of 2006: 38,000 square feet, $12 million.
Oregon: 37,000 square feet, $41.7 million.
Actually, that $41.7 million is a university estimate of how much the building cost. Knight paid for it himself and wouldn't say. The school may not even know.
What do you get for your extra $28 million? According to The Oregonian, the center features a three-story atrium, a 113-seat auditorium, "a room of bronze athlete-award statues commissioned by a Spanish artist whose sculptures are featured at the Olympic Museum in Lausanne, Switzerland" and a three-story-high etched steel mosaic of Albert Einstein. Naturally, it's not just any three-story-high etched steel mosaic of Albert Einstein. It is made out of thousands of photos of Oregon athletes taken by a photographer who followed them for a year.
Also: "In the second- and third-floor women's bathrooms, facing the stalls is a larger-than-life mirror etching of Knight."
(I'm so glad they're larger than life, because exact life-sized mirror etchings of Knight would just be weird.)
Do high school kids really choose a college because of this stuff? Hello? Have you ever met a high school kid? What 18-year-old wouldn't love having vents in his locker to dry his pads after practice? Ten years ago, Oregon noticed that kids would visit Eugene just to see the facilities, even if they weren't going to sign with the Ducks. Oregon kept spending, players kept visiting, and eventually the athletes started to come.
In 2000, Oregon joined the Workers Rights' Consortium, which has heavily criticized Nike's labor practices. Knight withdrew his donation for the Autzen Stadium renovation. Then the university withdrew from the consortium. And then Knight pledged his money again.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz2QfPgUL3I
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Supercowboy1986
what is the benefit to BEING a booster? i know they give money and goods to players but how does the benefit the booster himself? i was a little lost with the whole Shipiro thing with the U. can someone enlighten me?
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Power; Ego able to rub elbows with football players all those things come into play we are talking about Billionaire and millionaire clubs.
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