Jimmy Johnson calls Jerry Jones' G.M. claims a "crock"

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

@JimmyJohnson

“...point made was who made football decisions regardless of titles”

https://twitter.com/JimmyJohnson/sta...64645633970176

never let a germane point get in the way of semantics

[Joe Rod]

Originally Posted by McLovin

never let a germane point get in the way of semantics

I'm fairly certain that most people understood what Jimmy was getting at, but some wanted to argue anyway.

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by superpunk

Look GM is just a title, Tom Ciskowski does all the real work around here.

[Yakuza Rich]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Hindsight

If you were just out of a contentious job w/ both having 2 egos, the allure of a HOF QB would seem like the path to quickest success. Before he took the Miami gig, I would have assumed he had good conversations w/ Marino and Shula, etc.

We could say the same for Jerry. And he won a Super Bowl after Jimmy.

And you can't one second blame Marino's age one second for Jimmy's failures and then the next state that it's just hindsight. I would assume that any coach should know that there are some very big, inherent risks with an aging QB.

It was a bad decision on his part. It was a bad decision on Jerry's part, too. They both made equally bad decisions based on their ego.






YR

[CIWhitefish]

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

We could say the same for Jerry. And he won a Super Bowl after Jimmy.

And you can't one second blame Marino's age one second for Jimmy's failures and then the next state that it's just hindsight. I would assume that any coach should know that there are some very big, inherent risks with an aging QB.

It was a bad decision on his part. It was a bad decision on Jerry's part, too. They both made equally bad decisions based on their ego.






YR

A trend which continues to this day unfortunately.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by superpunk

Look GM is just a title, Tom Ciskowski does all the real work around here.

Thanks for the hearty chuckle. The laugh was right on time.

[dez_for_prez]

I think the whole GM thing is overblown. Jerry may have been the "GM" but Jimmy was 1 step below. Jimmy called all the shots and Jerry just said ok.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

We could say the same for Jerry. And he won a Super Bowl after Jimmy.

And you can't one second blame Marino's age one second for Jimmy's failures and then the next state that it's just hindsight. I would assume that any coach should know that there are some very big, inherent risks with an aging QB.

It was a bad decision on his part. It was a bad decision on Jerry's part, too. They both made equally bad decisions based on their ego.


YR

Agree both made bad decisions, but I understand why Jimmy took the Miami gig at the time. Marino had a typical Marino-year in 1995. I assume he wanted to win with another team, and call it a career. Didnt work out.

[Joe Rod]

Originally Posted by DrKennethNoisewater

Jimmy did not leave to coach the Dolphins...he left because of the friction between him and Jerry. If he had left to coach the Dolphins he would not have done 2 years of TV prior to taking the Miami job.

Jimmy contributed to that friction. I wish he had not, but he was throwing out overtures to Jacksonville during his last season in Dallas.

You only need to look at the four drafts after Jimmy left to know who was truely in charge while he was there, but Jimmy has to get some blame for the split because his eyes were wandering.

[DrKennethNoisewater]

Originally Posted by Joe Rod

Jimmy contributed to that friction. I wish he had not, but he was throwing out overtures to Jacksonville during his last season in Dallas.

You only need to look at the four drafts after Jimmy left to know who was truely in charge while he was there, but Jimmy has to get some blame for the split because his eyes were wandering.

Not the point...the point was made that he left the Cowboys for the Dolphins...which is absolutely wrong.

[Joe Rod]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Agree both made bad decisions, but I understand why Jimmy took the Miami gig at the time. Marino had a typical Marino-year in 1995. I assume he wanted to win with another team, and call it a career. Didnt work out.

Truthfully, I doubt Miami got the same Jimmy Johnson that Dallas had. They wouldn't have hired that iron-fisted guy to go along with Dan Marino.

[Joe Rod]

Originally Posted by DrKennethNoisewater

Not the point...the point was made that he left the Cowboys for the Dolphins...which is absolutely wrong.

It was only an addition to said point, not an attempt to correct or contradict.

[Nightshade]

Originally Posted by PAINFROMUKRAINE

NO Super Bowl Rings with one of the ALL TIME Best QBs in NFL History. Playoffs does not mean Success. Go ask the Eagles Fans if Reid is a successful Coach. No Ring/Trophy means "Unsuccessful Season".

Marino was all for himself and no one could stop him from driving the team to mediocrity to the glory of himself.

I hated Miami when he was there because you could see him killing his own team every year with the same thing that's killing us. One man's immense ego.

[CATCH17]

Jerry is selfish and his ego means more to him than this franchise winning does.


He wants all the glory or no glory at all.

[JackWagon]

Originally Posted by McLovin

never let a germane point get in the way of semantics

McLovin ... your sig is crackin me up dude