Jimmy Johnson calls Jerry Jones' G.M. claims a "crock"

[BoysFan4ever]

I thought Tex Schramm was kept on as the GM for a short time when Jerry bought the team.

[WoodysGirl]

mike fisher ‏@fishsports

You dont think Jimmy's out-of-nowhere #Cowboys outburst has anything to do with the promotion of a certain TV show, do ya?

For record, #cowboys books 'Stars & Strife' & 'Boys Are Back' publicly endorsed/praised by Jimmy AND Jerry AND Aikman AND irvin.

I LIVED in #Cowboys Jimmy Country Club. Drunken Bungee Jumping. White House & Whores. Irvin & Curvin. And Jimmy in charge of SBowls

NO ONE disputes Jimmy's football CEO authority/brilliance. It's Jimmy alone who keeps needing a hug. #CowboysNation loves you, Coach.

Meanwhile, Jerry wants a #Cowboys hug. And you cannot and should not give it to his 3-5 level leadership.

1) Jimmy & Jerry, #Cowboys real-time, 1992, 'Stars & Strife': Jimmy: 'We dont worry abt titles, GM, that sort of thing.'

2) Jimmy/Jerry, #Cowboys real-time, 1992, 'Stars & Strife': Jerry: 'If ur willing to give someone else credit, u can conquer the world.

'Stars & Strife,' 1993, page 21: 'A clause in Jimmy's #Cowboys contract stipulating he has 'final say' on all personnel matters.' #oldnews

[CyberB0b]

God I hate Twitter. I am still in my 20's and hate it.

[Plankton]

Originally Posted by anava

Totally disagree. We have plenty of talent to contend. With the mess we have in coaching and ownership we have competed in every game this year but the bears game. Get the right coach in here and let him do his thing we are serious contenders.

The team cannot run against 7 man fronts due to the poor offensive line. Teams that can't run when other defenses are daring you to are not in a position to contend.

[17yearsandcounting]

Originally Posted by THUMPER

It could be that Jason Garrett is another Bill Belichick in the making. You know, a guy who sucked in his first NFL HC job but then took off after changing teams.

Belichick was the Browns' HC for 5 seasons and went 36-44 there with one winning season and playoff appearance to show for it (they went 11-5 in his 4th year and won one playoff game.)

He then was an assistant coach under Bill Parcells for 5 years before taking over as the HC of the Patriots. In 12 seasons with the Pats they have made the playoffs 9 times (not counting this season yet) and only his first year there did they have a losing record. He was a FAR different HC when he took over the Patriots than he was with the Browns. Much more mature and confident.

[View Full Quote]If Garrett leaves and has the opportunity to be an assistant coach for a while under a veteran HC he may turn into a good HC someday but right now he is simply not ready for the job. He doesn't know what to do in critical situations and doesn't have the experience to make instinctual decisions on the fly or adjustments during games.

It is obvious that he is an intelligent guy and you can see some flashes of what he may someday become but he needs a LOT more time working under a veteran HC before he will be ready to take the top job again.

Once again, Jerry took a risk that didn't pay off and now it has set us back yet more seasons. Jerry doesn't understand that football is not like the oil business where you can take risks, and if you lose, well you can always make it up again later.

NFL players have a short window of time to be at their peak and it requires all of the parts to be working together at the same time to win in this league. Jerry still does not get that. He thinks you can just keep taking risks on players and coaches and eventually it will all work out. He still believes that HIS way will work given enough time and luck but it hasn't, it isn't, and it won't.

Even Garrett and Belichick is a poor comparison. Bill spent 16 years coaching before he got his first gig and crashed and burned. So that leaves Jason about 11 years left of experience until he is even at Bill Bellichick Cleveland territory.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

God I hate Twitter. I am still in my 20's and hate it.

then you are doing it wrong

i hated it my first go round.

then i got sucked back in for a few follows i found real value in and now i love it. i get more news via twitter than anywhere else.

[perrykemp]

Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

Even Garrett and Belichick is a poor comparison. Bill spent 16 years coaching before he got his first gig and crashed and burned. So that leaves Jason about 11 years left of experience until he is even at Bill Bellichick Cleveland territory.

Of course any mediocre/sucky coach <could> theoretically be a future HoF coach.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

No. We do not have the talent to be a contender. When you start 4 wastes of space on your offensive line and the cast of Rent on your DL, you are not a real contender.

Well, the talent with Wade here got us a division title and a 13-3 record, so talent was there at minimum in the beginning of the 'Garrett era'. So if you argue that we don't have the talent anymore, than not only has our coaching gotten worse, but our personnel moves have gotten worse under Garrett.

[djmajestik]

Originally Posted by Dodger

I'm really starting to hate Jerry Jones....the delusional, self-promoting, egotistical narcissist that he is.

Starting? I've settled into a nice relaxing, comfortable hatred for the man.

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by djmajestik

Starting? I've settled into a nice relaxing, comfortable hatred for the man.

Yeah...I had hope for him until very recently. But that's all gone. It's quite clear to me now that Jerry Jones will not do everything that he can to make the Cowboys winners. He did...a long time ago...but that was then. I doubt he ever fully commits to winning ever again.

[KJJ]

Originally Posted by THUMPER

It could be that Jason Garrett is another Bill Belichick in the making. You know, a guy who sucked in his first NFL HC job but then took off after changing teams.

Belichick was the Browns' HC for 5 seasons and went 36-44 there with one winning season and playoff appearance to show for it (they went 11-5 in his 4th year and won one playoff game.

Beliichick started his coaching career in 1975 as an assistant with the Colts and worked his way up the ranks before becoming an NFL head coach in 1991 with the Browns. He spent 12 years with the Giants becoming a very successful defensive coordinator under Bill Parcells. Belichick was a big reason why the Giants won the SB in 86 and 90. Parcells never won a championship without Bellichick who had 16 years of coaching experience before landing his first NFL head coaching job.

Garrett had less than 6 years of coaching experience before becoming the Cowboys interim head coach. Garrett has the least experience of any current NFL head coach. Ron Rivera is the second least experienced head coach and he had 15 years of coaching experience before landing the head coaching job in Carolina. The odds on Garrett becoming the next Belichick are slim and none. Belichick didn't become what he is until 2001 when Brady took over for Drew Bledsoe. It took over 26 years for Belichick to be considered a great NFL head coach.

It could take another decade just for Garrett to develop into a decent head coach. He still hasn't learned how to manage a clock that could take another 5 years. He's going through on the job training teams are suppose to develop players not their head coach. You're suppose to hire a head coach who's ready to be a head coach not one you have to teach on the job. If Jerry wanted Garrett as his head coach he should have kept him as an assistant under a competent head coach for a few more years so he could continue to learn and would have been ready to be a head coach.

Garrett is in over his head it's obvious to everyone and it's making Jerry and the organization look foolish. How embarrassing it must be for Jerry to constantly have to answer questions about the competence of his head coach and his inability to manage games.

[17yearsandcounting]

Originally Posted by KJJ

Beliichick started his coaching career in 1975 as an assistant with the Colts and worked his way up the ranks before becoming an NFL head coach in 1991 with the Browns. He spent 12 years with the Giants becoming a very successful defensive coordinator under Bill Parcells. Belichick was a big reason why the Giants won the SB in 86 and 90. Parcells never won a championship without Bellichick who had 16 years of coaching experience before landing his first NFL head coaching job.

[View Full Quote]Garrett had less than 6 years of coaching experience before becoming the Cowboys interim head coach. Garrett has the least experience of any current NFL head coach. Ron Rivera is the second least experienced head coach and he had 15 years of coaching experience before landing the head coaching job in Carolina. The odds on Garrett becoming the next Belichick are slim and none. Belichick didn't become what he is until 2001 when Brady took over for Drew Bledsoe. It took over 26 years for Belichick to be considered a great NFL head coach.

It could take another decade just for Garrett to develop into a decent head coach. He still hasn't learned how to manage a clock that could take another 5 years. He's going through on the job training teams are suppose to develop players not their head coach. You're suppose to hire a head coach who's ready to be a head coach not one you have to teach on the job. If Jerry wanted Garrett as his head coach he should have kept him as an assistant under a competent head coach for a few more years so he could continue to learn and would have been ready to be a head coach.

Garrett is in over his head it's obvious to everyone and it's making Jerry and the organization look foolish. How embarrassing it must be for Jerry to constantly have to answer questions about the competence of his head coach and his inability to manage games.

Its so funny to see the Garrett ferretts trumpet their "But..but...but... LANDRY....but....but....but Belichick!"

Uh no. Those are terrible terrible comparisons for reasons stated here.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

Well, the talent with Wade here got us a division title and a 13-3 record, so talent was there at minimum in the beginning of the 'Garrett era'. So if you argue that we don't have the talent anymore, than not only has our coaching gotten worse, but our personnel moves have gotten worse under Garrett.

I'm failing to follow your arithmetic.

Wade took over Parcells team in 2007. One with an emerging core of players just entering their prime. Garrett took over Wade's 1-7 team on the fly in 2010. An older roster coming apart at the seams.

You can't possibly believe an offensive coordinator was responsible for the personnel decisions that led to that.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

I'm failing to follow your arithmetic.

Wade took over Parcells team in 2007. One with an emerging core of players just entering their prime. Garrett took over Wade's 1-7 team on the fly in 2010. An older roster coming apart at the seams.

You can't possibly believe an offensive coordinator was responsible for the personnel decisions that led to that.

Huh? Your saying that core of players are part of this older roster coming apart at the seams? Who exactly were this group of core players that somehow marks a difference between Wade and Garrett's era? The same core group of players are here, aren't they?

And who was responsible for bringing Brad Johnson and Kitna here? Wade? Diidn't Wade want Chris Johnson over Felix Jones?

So once again, one losing season out of 4, and the other, yet to make a play-off game and getting consistently worse each year...

[blackbull]

Mike fisher is annoying as all hell. Hate it when he comes on 105.3