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robert70x7 · 11-09-2012

Averaged both rankings. This is about all I can contribute to this.

Jarvis Jones
Star Lotulelei
Manti Te'o
Damontre Moore
Chance Warmack
Luke Joeckel
Bjoern Werner
Johnathan Hankins
Barkevious Mingo
Geno Smith
Dee Milliner
Sylvester Williams
Matt Barkley
Johnathan Jenkins
Sam Montgomery
Jonathan Cooper
Cornelius Carradine
Sheldon Richardson
Dion Jordan
Taylor Lewan
Alec Ogletree
Justin Hunter
Corey Lemonier
Shariff Floyd
Eric Fisher
Keenan Allen
Kenny Vacarro
Dallas Thomas
Jake Matthews
Robert Woods
Terrance Williams
Zach Ertz
Kawaan Short
Johnathan Banks
Bennie Logan

RS12 · 11-09-2012

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Originally Posted by robert70x7

Averaged both rankings. This is about all I can contribute to this.

Jarvis Jones
Star Lotulelei
Manti Te'o
Damontre Moore
Chance Warmack
Luke Joeckel
Bjoern Werner
Johnathan Hankins
Barkevious Mingo
Geno Smith
Dee Milliner
Sylvester Williams
Matt Barkley
Johnathan Jenkins
Sam Montgomery
Jonathan Cooper
Cornelius Carradine
Sheldon Richardson
Dion Jordan
Taylor Lewan
Alec Ogletree
Justin Hunter
Corey Lemonier
Shariff Floyd
Eric Fisher
Keenan Allen
Kenny Vacarro
Dallas Thomas
Jake Matthews
Robert Woods
Terrance Williams
Zach Ertz
Kawaan Short
Johnathan Banks
Bennie Logan

Moore would be a nice fit in Dallas IMO. Just makes plays. At 6-4 250 I could see him either at Spencers position or bulking up at DE with pass rush ability. Plays the run and rush the passer.

Macnalty · 11-09-2012

Robert is this your list or from another site? If so what site, I have a hard time putting Vacarro in the first round after watching the OU game and Baylor track meet. I am in agreement with the rest of the crew although truth be known there are about five I do not recognize. The top twenty I know. My son tells me Jeffcoat over Okafor but once again watch the OU game. Guess I am down on Texas after watching four of there games. the kid from Florida State Bjoren Werner is sneaking up like JJ Watts did a couple of years ago.

robert70x7 · 11-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Macnalty

Robert is this your list or from another site? If so what site, I have a hard time putting Vacarro in the first round after watching the OU game and Baylor track meet. I am in agreement with the rest of the crew although truth be known there are about five I do not recognize. The top twenty I know. My son tells me Jeffcoat over Okafor but once again watch the OU game. Guess I am down on Texas after watching four of there games. the kid from Florida State Bjoren Werner is sneaking up like JJ Watts did a couple of years ago.

I combined both McShay's and Kiper's rankings and averaged them out.

robert70x7 · 11-09-2012

Edited the list from above and indicated 'risers' and 'fallers'

Jarvis Jones
Star Lotulelei
Manti Te'o
Damontre Moore
Chance Warmack
Luke Joeckel
Bjoern Werner
Johnathan Hankins
Barkevious Mingo
Geno Smith
Dee Milliner
Sylvester Williams
Matt Barkley
Johnathan Jenkins
Sam Montgomery
Jonathan Cooper
Cornelius Carradine
Sheldon Richardson
Dion Jordan
Taylor Lewan
Alec Ogletree
Justin Hunter
Corey Lemonier
Shariff Floyd
Eric Fisher
Keenan Allen
Kenny Vacarro
Dallas Thomas
Jake Matthews
Robert Woods
Terrance Williams
Zach Ertz
Kawaan Short
Johnathan Banks
Bennie Logan

Edited for rankings. Green = Rising, Red = Falling

Biggest Rise - Dion Jordan - DE, Oregon
Biggest Fall - Barkevious Mingo - DE, LSU and Keenan Allen - WR, California

Risen Star · 11-09-2012

Good stuff, Robert.

Tezz · 11-09-2012

Florida St CB Xavier Rhodes is going to be on that list when it comes time to draft.

Nothing to do with top 32, but I wonder if RB Marcus Lattimore can have a Willis McGahee situation and sneak into bottom half of 1st round if he declares for draft and proclaims himself healthy.

joseephuss · 11-09-2012

No one will believe Lattimore if he claims to be healthy at draft time. Teams will just want to know if he is healing and the prognosis at the time of the draft is that he will eventually be healthy.

rkell87 · 11-09-2012

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I just don't see it that way.

how do you see it? he is the only healthy guy left that is tackling worth a damn

Macnalty · 11-10-2012

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No one will believe Lattimore if he claims to be healthy at draft time. Teams will just want to know if he is healing and the prognosis at the time of the draft is that he will eventually be healthy.

Two knees being redone is really a red flag for longevity, I am rooting for him to come back, Look at Adrian Peterson and his knee that is the exception after one year most do not trust cutting for two years.

Macnalty · 11-10-2012

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Gosh I am familiar with both of these WR and they are mediocre compared to the last couple of drafts in my opinion. RB,QB and WR seem less than average this year not knowledgeable enough to comment on the DB and Safeties. I will say that Fletcher Cox and Michael Bockers would be near the end of round one vs the middle last year with this group of DL. Hankins and Star are game changers in the middle of the Dlineman.
My philosophy is that RG3 is coming whether we want him to or not, better to prepare now that we see his talents as we have ten years left of him running around on us and god help us if he keeps up his great passing and gets some receivers. You bring as much heat from up the middle to negate his talents, both Star and Hankins qualify. Heaven help Eli if we get one of those two guys.

Can you guys pull up who was on there draft board this time last year in November? Not sure RG3 was too high at this point, almost positive Matt Barkley was way ahead of him.