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11-10-2012
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Stackin and Processin, Well
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Jerry: "A lot of teams have worse offensive line than the Cowboys"
Jerry told the FAN, 'a lot of clubs wish they had a line playing as well as ours.'
Discuss, cause I don't even know what to say anymore.
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11-10-2012
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The Instant Classic
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In terms of pass blocking, that's probably true.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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11-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
In terms of pass blocking, that's probably true.
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You'd have a lot of people disagreeing with you here. Especially serious Romo backers.
 There is no formula for success except an unconditional acceptance of life and what it brings.
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11-10-2012
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Stackin and Processin, Well
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
You'd have a lot of people disagreeing with you here. Especially serious Romo backers.
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He makes them look much better than they really are. Romo has great pocket awareness and routinely evades free rushers.
If we had a pure pocket passer in there this group would be putting up David Carr sack numbers.
This group also doesn't see much blitz action because coordinators understand they can get pressure on Romo with just 4 guys, while dropping 7 guys and taking away the vertical passing game.
Means your QB has absolutely no running game, horrible pass protection, and is throwing the ball in incredibly tight windows. Makes your offense completely one dimensional, predictable, and ineffective particularly in the red/green zones where you need your line to convert short yardage and keep drives alive.
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11-10-2012
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Memo to Jerry: Yes it is.
If Romo weren't a Jedi Knight they would look like crap.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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11-10-2012
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Put Niland and Green in the ROH
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Well, then, that settles that. If anyone knows about high quality football talent and performance it's Jerry Jones.
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11-10-2012
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So is this him blaming Jason or what?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting
So is this him blaming Jason or what?
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Red could do something like ice his own kicker and Jerry wouldn't blame him. Wait a sec..
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11-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Creed
He makes them look much better than they really are. Romo has great pocket awareness and routinely evades free rushers.
If we had a pure pocket passer in there this group would be putting up David Carr sack numbers.
This group also doesn't see much blitz action because coordinators understand they can get pressure on Romo with just 4 guys, while dropping 7 guys and taking away the vertical passing game.
Means your QB has absolutely no running game, horrible pass protection, and is throwing the ball in incredibly tight windows. Makes your offense completely one dimensional, predictable, and ineffective particularly in the red/green zones where you need your line to convert short yardage and keep drives alive.
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I agree. The mere fact that they are better at pass blocking than they are at run blocking says nothing. They are next to worthless with regard to run blocking.
I am not the biggest Romo fan, but he has made the OL look MUCH better than they actually are for as long as he's played. Not sure if Romo is the answer, but until and/or unless they address the OL adequately, we will never know.
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11-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Creed
He makes them look much better than they really are. Romo has great pocket awareness and routinely evades free rushers.
If we had a pure pocket passer in there this group would be putting up David Carr sack numbers.
This group also doesn't see much blitz action because coordinators understand they can get pressure on Romo with just 4 guys, while dropping 7 guys and taking away the vertical passing game.
Means your QB has absolutely no running game, horrible pass protection, and is throwing the ball in incredibly tight windows. Makes your offense completely one dimensional, predictable, and ineffective particularly in the red/green zones where you need your line to convert short yardage and keep drives alive.
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I always find the board spin to be interesting on the OL, I mean it has to be horrible if some of the agenda carriers say it is.....right. Nevermind that we are middle of the road in sacks given up or a player of the caliber of Aaron Rodgers has been sacked twice as much but is still producing.
Of course, the issue has to be the OL right, not that Romo has had a bad season and is holding the ball too long cause he doesn't trust his receivers, its all on the OL.....right. I mean, Romo is Houdini, better than any QB in the league at avoiding sacks, even a past league MVP in Rodgers...right.
Somehow, someway, it has to be seen that it isn't just the OL, especially when we are talking about pass protection this year. Sure, the OL could be better (especially in the running game), and anyone should want the best in the league in any position group on the team.
But the OL harping gets old when it ignores all the other problems on this team, and overdrafting or spending too many resources on that area won't just fix this team, we have alot more areas that need addressing also especially on a defense who couldn't cause a turnover if their life depended on it.
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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11-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge
I agree. The mere fact that they are better at pass blocking than they are at run blocking says nothing. They are next to worthless with regard to run blocking.
I am not the biggest Romo fan, but he has made the OL look MUCH better than they actually are for as long as he's played. Not sure if Romo is the answer, but until and/or unless they address the OL adequately, we will never know.
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Right on, Sarge. An absolutely pathetic run blocking line. Thank God for Romo's pocket presence or we'd be talking about the same type of pass blocking.
It is the worst OL I've seen here since Jimmy arrived.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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11-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
Right on, Sarge. An absolutely pathetic run blocking line. Thank God for Romo's pocket presence or we'd be talking about the same type of pass blocking.
It is the worst OL I've seen here since Jimmy arrived.
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Yep, run blocking has been bad......except when Phil Costa was on the field when we ran for all those yards in Baltimore with any RB we plugged in. Costa has to be one of the most polarizing guys on this line, but what happens when he returns and if we can all of a sudden run the ball again.
Can one guy as average as Costa make 'the worst OL since Jimmy' that much better......or is it that your just overstating your opinion time and time again. Last year, we were pretty middle of the road when it came to rushing offense, now we are amongst the worse in the league. Excluding the tackles cause they are the same like the RBs, Livings and Berny are just as good as Holland and Kosier were last year respectively, the main difference is Costa (being hurt) and Cook.
How hard is it to make a leap and think......hey ding ding ding.....there might be something to that.
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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11-10-2012
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The only reason why the Cowboys ran all over the Ravens is because the Ravens are absolute trash on defense. It wasn't because of Costa. I hate that he got hurt. Not because he's good, but because now that's going to be used as the talking point to not upgrade there. He would've been exposed as the same awful center had he stayed healthy.
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11-10-2012
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Was he including college teams in that statement?
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11-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting
So is this him blaming Jason or what?
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Nah, this is Jerry's way of letting the fanbase know that he is not going to draft linemen. Expect more of the same.
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