The Truth about Jimmy..

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

I'll concede Jimmy had his faults

Originally Posted by alsmith

...Why do you think Jimmy would not come back to coaching, he has enough ego of him in him, not to want to destroy his image...

He has a real ego that prevents him from FAIL for 16 seasons and counting.

[starchamber]

Originally Posted by alsmith

Jimmy did a great job coaching using fear, just as H.S. coaches use today and college coaches use today, because the players have no choice in the matter, but in the NFL that will not work with the NFL players anymore, as for players just release them and another team will be glad to pick them up and play and pay them.

Remember, for those who have forgotten, Jimmy the great, he did not want QB Troy as the QB, he wanted QB Walsh from Miami as his QB, and Jimmy the great, he did not want RB Emmitt, he said he was to small and slow, he wanted to draft a LB that was drafted just ahead of his pick, ahead of him and Jimmy had to be talked into taking Emmitt.

[View Full Quote]So as for how great he was, yes he was a very good coach but he also proved in Miami that his coaching style and his system does not and will not work in this Free Agent area, known as today's NFL, that is and was the reason he QUIT coaching, he knew it then and now because players would not take the abuse that he shovel out, as he even said he was too hard on the players and the players today, forget about it.

Why do you think Jimmy would not come back to coaching, he has enough ego of him in him, not to want to destroy his image, remember he a legend in his own mind, and yes he did win here and thank you Jimmy and Jerry for the SB wins together but your ego Jimmy got in your own way and it still shows today, is that enough credit for him..

Jimmy you did something that people should never do,,, you disrespected your boss, instead of saying we build this team, as so for you and the players that was signed, and to give the man that sign those big checks as the owner and GM and scouts that took those trips and people that worked hard to put all that info together for you and coaches,

Jimmy you totally disrespected the man who took a chance on you, Jerry was told not to because of Jimmy big ego, other teams would not touch him because of that, but Jimmy you totally disrespect him the owner in a bar in front of friends and other coaches, by the way I would have FIRED your a-s-s too.

Remember with Jimmy its all or none, and he has more than enough of him for everyone..

You don't think Belechick uses some element of fear to run his team? All leaders regardless of the indusrty use the "fear of replacement" to keep their people motivated. Without that element individuals start to feel that they are entitled to what they have rather than having earned it.

Regardless of Jimmy's method, I loved his results. Jason and Jerry, not so much. As it stands now, Jerry will NEVER be in another SB let alone win one. Unfortunately, time is slowly but surely bearing that out.

[Dodger12]

Originally Posted by alsmith

Jimmy was not in great demand as a coach coming out of college, the word around the NFL with GM and Owners, was not to hire him because of his BIG EGO, you could not control him and that the truth..

Can you elaborate some more where you heard this? I thought I heard or read that Jimmy was being looked at by some other NFL teams before he was hired by Jerry.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Dodger12

Can you elaborate some more where you heard this? I thought I heard or read that Jimmy was being looked at by some other NFL teams before he was hired by Jerry.

He was. He made it up since it sounds good and strengthens his fan spin agenda.

[Dodger12]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

He was. He made it up since it sounds good and strengthens his fan spin agenda.

Amazing how over the years the facts and history change to fin into people's opinions, agendas and theories. Only on CZ would someone knock down Jimmy Johnson to prop up Jerry. It's sad, really. But people have been sanitized to believe that coaches don't matter because they've been marginalized under Jerry, with the exception of BP.

[fairviewfarmer]

Originally Posted by alsmith

Quote (There is some truth to what you wrote, but Jerry did not take a chance on Jimmy, Jimmy was in high demand in the NFL and would have had other opportunities in the NFL as a headcoach if Jerry did not hire him).

Jimmy was not in great demand as a coach coming out of college, the word around the NFL with GM and Owners, was not to hire him because of his BIG EGO, you could not control him and that the truth..

As for FEAR people feared Jimmy he treated his players bad, yes some of them love him and he had his favorites but Jimmy treated the players very bad and was very hard on them, he even admits this now, he even left Troy and Micheal at the airport, jimmy even admits this today in interviews,

[View Full Quote]That type of coaching is great in college and H.S. and back then, but it will not worked with players today in the NFL.. You can not cut players in this high price era because it will set your team back for years and they know it, but even if you do, they will get paid anyway, so chose your poison..

All I know is Jimmy put a SB team on the field his final 2 years here and it was a team(s) that most of us are still proud of......since then...not so much...

[burmafrd]

I agree that because of the change in the game and the cap and everything that you cannot rule soley by fear anymore.

But a smart coach can figure ways to get the point across. Coughlin was a real hard line old time coach in the BP mode and it almost got him fired. He learned to tread something of a middle ground from where he had been and that has gotten him 2 rings.

For this team a coach that can discipline is almost an absolute must have. Unfortunately that is not Red Ball.

Now whether that is because its not in him or Jerruh will not let him do it or a combination; does not matter because for all the claims by his worshippers that there is a different culture in place I see no signs of it on the field.

[Howardlittleton64]

The Truth is Mr. Jones has ruined a once proud franchise. That is the only truth that matter.

[Clove]

If you're trying to get fans to root against Jimmy and what he did for us fans, forget it. Winners will always be elevated and losers will be stoned.

And no matter how you find ways to secretly prop up Jerry Jones, we can see it, and smell it. And you can't run from the fact that after Jimmy's talent was decimated, Jones has proven to be TRASH!

If you are 18 years old, you were sucking on a bottle the last time we won the Super Bowl. If you are 23 years old, you were an infant the last time we drafted a QB in the 1st round.

[TwoDeep3]

Not sure if i read this correctly, but are there those that suggest Jimmy made up the story about another team during the 1993 season?

His statement was, "why would they (thought is was the panthers but may have been the Jaguars) want to speak with Norv, when they can interview me?"