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11-11-2012
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White and Nerdy
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Feed Me More Mock
right now we only have 6 picks. That is like going to a restaurant and not getting an appetizer or dessert. You get fed, but you leave wanting more.
So I say we are active in this draft, especially if we are in the early middle of each round.
Trade our 1st for a 1st, 2nd and 6th
Trade our 2nd for a 2nd, 3rd, and 7th
Trade our 3rd for a 3rd, 4th
Now we have 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7 (almost doubling our picks)
1 - OG Jonathan Cooper - UNC
We need OL help in the worst way. Livings has shown steady improvement as the season as gone on, but Bernie is horrible. Cooper is a beast and an athletic speciman.
2 - S Kenny Vaccaro - Texas
This is a homer pick, but it is validated. We need safety help and he is one of the best prospects in this draft. He plays sideline to sideline. He is very good is pass coverage, though he can be beat from time to time. He brings aggression, toughness, and leadership. He will hit you if you come into his zone, that is for sure.
2 - DE Ezekial Ansah - BYU
We need DL help, especially more pass rush. This guy is an athletic freak, a strong character guy, and has a great motor. He is relatively new to the game, but his freakish athleticism and willingness to learn and excel will make him a great prospect.
3 - C Khaled Holmes - USC
We need a Center. Costa has played very good this year, when he hasn't been injured. Unfortunately, he has been injured almost all year. Cook was an adequate backup to bring in, but he isn't the long term answer. Killer has yet to step on the field, because of injury. Holmes is an animal. He comes from a football factory with a history of churning out great players. Holmes and Costa can compete for the starting job....giving us a nice long term duo at the Center position.
3 - WR Quinton Patton - Louisiana Tech
This guy is one heckuva WR. I am worried though, cause he is charging up the value board. He may be gone by the 2nd round. If he is still on the board, no brainer, we take him. If he is gone, I would like to go after Cobi Hamilton of Arkansas. IMO, either one here at this pick would be outstanding for our offense and Romo.
4 - OT Lane Johnson - OU
Ok, I hate the Sooners with a passion, and I am sure I have made that obvious. With that being said, this guy is a very good OT. He was a 6th round prospect to start the season, but he has been surging up the charts. I have seen him as high as the 2nd round on some sites. I am hoping with my fingers crossed that he will be here in the 4th.....though I have a feeling he will be long gone by now. Still, this is just a mock and we never actually know, so for now I will keep him here in my mock.
4 - OLB Quanterus Smith - Western Kentucky
This guy has the body and athletic ability to be a longtime stud in the NFL. To get him here in the 4th is an absolute steal, if he pans out. We should be in the market for an OLB this offseason and Smith is an outstanding midround prospect.
5 - RB Kerwynn Williams - Utah St.
He is undersized. However, he is fast and quite versatile. He can run, catch, return....and do it all well. Regardless of his size, he simply produces when he steps on the field.
6 - DT Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern St.
A big, athletic small school player. He has a great work ethic and a strong character. This is my late round steal.
6 - CB Melvin White - Louisiana Lafayette
He can play S or CB, and does well at both. We most likely lose Mike Jenkins in the offseason, so CB will be an area of need. I am hoping that we can somehow find a way to re-sign Jenkins. You can never have too many good CBs, especially with the injury bug always looming. Whether we keep Jenks or not, White would be a nice late-round prospect.
7 - OT Kyle Long - Oregon
He is projected as a 6th rounder in some mocks. Still, he is raw, and new to OT. He has pedigree, son of Howie and brother of Chris. He is 6-7 over 300 lbs. He is playing OT right now, but he has experience along the DL. I figure that a 7th round prospect with his size, athleticism, versatility, and pedigree is well worth the pick.
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11-11-2012
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Man I want one of the three Aggies in the first. Didnt Long get thrown out of FSU which I thought was virtually impossible? For the most part like it though. Patton intriguing.
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11-11-2012
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White and Nerdy
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Originally Posted by RS12
Man I want one of the three Aggies in the first. Didnt Long get thrown out of FSU which I thought was virtually impossible? For the most part like it though. Patton intriguing.
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Yes he did. He admitted that he didn't take it as seriously as he should and he partied way too much while down there.
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11-12-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggems
right now we only have 6 picks. That is like going to a restaurant and not getting an appetizer or dessert. You get fed, but you leave wanting more.
So I say we are active in this draft, especially if we are in the early middle of each round.
Trade our 1st for a 1st, 2nd and 6th
Trade our 2nd for a 2nd, 3rd, and 7th
Trade our 3rd for a 3rd, 4th
Now we have 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7 (almost doubling our picks)
1 - OG Jonathan Cooper - UNC
We need OL help in the worst way. Livings has shown steady improvement as the season as gone on, but Bernie is horrible. Cooper is a beast and an athletic speciman.
2 - S Kenny Vaccaro - Texas [View Full Quote]This is a homer pick, but it is validated. We need safety help and he is one of the best prospects in this draft. He plays sideline to sideline. He is very good is pass coverage, though he can be beat from time to time. He brings aggression, toughness, and leadership. He will hit you if you come into his zone, that is for sure.
2 - DE Ezekial Ansah - BYU
We need DL help, especially more pass rush. This guy is an athletic freak, a strong character guy, and has a great motor. He is relatively new to the game, but his freakish athleticism and willingness to learn and excel will make him a great prospect.
3 - C Khaled Holmes - USC
We need a Center. Costa has played very good this year, when he hasn't been injured. Unfortunately, he has been injured almost all year. Cook was an adequate backup to bring in, but he isn't the long term answer. Killer has yet to step on the field, because of injury. Holmes is an animal. He comes from a football factory with a history of churning out great players. Holmes and Costa can compete for the starting job....giving us a nice long term duo at the Center position.
3 - WR Quinton Patton - Louisiana Tech
This guy is one heckuva WR. I am worried though, cause he is charging up the value board. He may be gone by the 2nd round. If he is still on the board, no brainer, we take him. If he is gone, I would like to go after Cobi Hamilton of Arkansas. IMO, either one here at this pick would be outstanding for our offense and Romo.
4 - OT Lane Johnson - OU
Ok, I hate the Sooners with a passion, and I am sure I have made that obvious. With that being said, this guy is a very good OT. He was a 6th round prospect to start the season, but he has been surging up the charts. I have seen him as high as the 2nd round on some sites. I am hoping with my fingers crossed that he will be here in the 4th.....though I have a feeling he will be long gone by now. Still, this is just a mock and we never actually know, so for now I will keep him here in my mock.
4 - OLB Quanterus Smith - Western Kentucky
This guy has the body and athletic ability to be a longtime stud in the NFL. To get him here in the 4th is an absolute steal, if he pans out. We should be in the market for an OLB this offseason and Smith is an outstanding midround prospect.
5 - RB Kerwynn Williams - Utah St.
He is undersized. However, he is fast and quite versatile. He can run, catch, return....and do it all well. Regardless of his size, he simply produces when he steps on the field.
6 - DT Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern St.
A big, athletic small school player. He has a great work ethic and a strong character. This is my late round steal.
6 - CB Melvin White - Louisiana Lafayette
He can play S or CB, and does well at both. We most likely lose Mike Jenkins in the offseason, so CB will be an area of need. I am hoping that we can somehow find a way to re-sign Jenkins. You can never have too many good CBs, especially with the injury bug always looming. Whether we keep Jenks or not, White would be a nice late-round prospect.
7 - OT Kyle Long - Oregon
He is projected as a 6th rounder in some mocks. Still, he is raw, and new to OT. He has pedigree, son of Howie and brother of Chris. He is 6-7 over 300 lbs. He is playing OT right now, but he has experience along the DL. I figure that a 7th round prospect with his size, athleticism, versatility, and pedigree is well worth the pick.
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Excellent mock. I like the players and the rounds where you project them.
You're finding some good under-the-radar players.
I went back and reviewed some Oregon games that I had Tivo'd. I don't think Kyle Long started any of them, but he played quite a bit in the 3 games that I quickly scanned through. He played both LT and LG. I didn't see any problems with his play. He appears to have decent size/strength with good quickness.
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11-12-2012
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If we take a safety in the second make it Shawn Williams from UGA
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11-12-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackbull
If we take a safety in the second make it Shawn Williams from UGA
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I'm good with that.
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11-12-2012
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White and Nerdy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackbull
If we take a safety in the second make it Shawn Williams from UGA
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Can you give me some info on Williams?
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11-12-2012
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Originally Posted by blackbull
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How bout somebody that is just not afraid to hit somebody.
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11-12-2012
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Couple of problems if you use value from the trade value chart
Getting a 1rst and a 2nd means dropping 10 spots.....which is a lot. If we earn the 10th pick, I wouldn't want to drop to 20. And if we pick 15th, I certainly don't want to drop to 25.
Now your second trade
Still assuming we pick between 10-15, for us to get a 2nd and 3rd, we'd have to drop 15 spots. If we are picking 15th in round 2, the drop is 13.
So before the second round, we turned 10th+42nd into 20th+52nd+57th+89th. While on paper that seems great to some, the 57th and 89th are worth the dropoff of going from 10th and 42nd in round 1 and 2.
If we're closer to 15th, it becomes a tougher sell. We turn 15th+47th into 25th+57th+60th+92nd.
All in all, I don't think late 2nds and late 3rds are worth dropping down. Especially since this team isn't rebuilding (reguardless what anyone thinks they should do, they simply aren't).
So me personally, I'd take quality over quanity.
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11-12-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackbull
If we take a safety in the second make it Shawn Williams from UGA
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In his mock scenario, both #2s would have to be mid to late in the round.
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11-12-2012
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NFL Historian
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RS12
Man I want one of the three Aggies in the first. Didnt Long get thrown out of FSU which I thought was virtually impossible? For the most part like it though. Patton intriguing.
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Yes. Joeckel looks like a top 5 pick, while Moore looks like top 10. Matthews might be the most realistic option here.
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11-12-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
In his mock scenario, both #2s would have to be mid to late in the round.
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I think because he isn't a Speed guy he will fall.
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11-12-2012
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White and Nerdy
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Originally Posted by blackbull
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have you not watched Vaccaro? The guy brings it when he hits you.
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11-12-2012
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Quality>Quantity. Unless you absolutely covet a player that is rated lower and a team calls you with a great offer Im taking the highest guy on my board. Its not like we're talking about a team that doesn't have a bunch of holes. You keep trading down like that and you just run the risk higher and higher of missing on your pick. Thats just common sense.
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