What were Aikman, Buck and Pereria talking about on the Dez TD?

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by theogt

You can tell that, while touching the ground, it rolled 180 degrees almost exactly.

If it moved 180 you would not still see the laces after he rolled over.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

If it moved 180 you would not still see the laces after he rolled over.

Laces in front.



Laces in back.



180 degrees.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by theogt

Laces in front.



Laces in back.



180 degrees.

Go through the entire play after he rolls over...the laces are in the exact same place in relation to his forearm.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallas...s.php?t=247079

Play happens 29:40 3rd qrt. The back side view at 31:10 shows the ball on his arm the entire play.

[lane]

Originally Posted by theogt

Laces in front.



Laces in back.



180 degrees.

what's your problem?

you mad we won?

[theogt]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Go through the entire play after he rolls over...the laces are in the exact same place in relation to his forearm.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallas...s.php?t=247079

Play happens 29:40 3rd qrt. The back side view at 31:10 shows the ball on his arm the entire play.

Why does it matter where the laces end up after the ball stops rolling?

[theogt]

Originally Posted by lane

what's your problem?

you mad we won?

I'm happy about the win. But that doesn't mean I'm going to lie about what happened on the field.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by theogt

Laces in front.



Laces in back.



180 degrees.

The ball moved, yes. But just because you can't see the laces, doesn't mean it rotated 180 degrees. How did you determine that?

[links18]

Originally Posted by theogt

I'm happy about the win. But that doesn't mean I'm going to lie about what happened on the field.

Why use such a strong term as "lie"?

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by theogt

Why does it matter where the laces end up after the ball stops rolling?

Because you keep saying 180, if it actually rolled it had to roll 360 for the laces to again be facing up.

What the replay in its entirety shows is that what you keep point to as proof the ball rolled is actually the ball being compressed by Dez' body landing on the ball.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/dallas...s.php?t=247079

Look at the other endzone view at 31:10 of the 3rd. THAT BALL DID NOT ROLL.

[lane]

Originally Posted by theogt

I'm happy about the win. But that doesn't mean I'm going to lie about what happened on the field.

yea right..

guess what ?

even if they had overturned a legit td grab.. it would have been first and goal at the one.

bet that angers you to no end.

[TwentyOne]

Originally Posted by theogt

One person's judgment (with a strong bias) isn't very convincing to me. That was about as clear a non-catch as they come on replays.

Ah i dont know for sure. I think he had posession. The ball clearly touched the ground but that doesn't matter if he had posession beforehand.

But as i said. I am not a 100% sure. I have to watch the tape again.

[anava]

Originally Posted by lane

what's your problem?

you mad we won?

You know it is OK to criticize a team after a win. A huge part of the problem with this team is that they dont do that themselves.

[lane]

Originally Posted by anava

You know it is OK to criticize a team after a win. A huge part of the problem with this team is that they dont do that themselves.

who rattled your cage?

[crashintonickdm]

the ball rolled out after his elbows were down. he had control when he went down.

so touchdown.

[anava]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

the ball rolled out after his elbows were down. he had control when he went down.

so touchdown.

I will take it everytime and didnt think there was enough to overturn but in the endzone you have to control even when you hit the ground.