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CowboyRoy · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Wood

That might be the best analyst I have read on Romo in 10 years he has been with cowboys.

Romo has a lifetime QB rating of 3rd in NFL history. The only thing doofus is your analysis of Romo. It doesnt take a genius to see that Romo has been surrounded by incompetence in RB's, Oline, coaching, receivers, and defensive play throughout what has been a stellar career.

He has been failed by his team.

Rynie · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by RamziD

Romo is not our problem. Others have hit it - it's the poor OL play and the poor running game that are our main concerns on offense.

Wrong. Romo is totally part of the problem. He has overthrown so many wr's this year. What games are you watching?

Lifetimeboyzfan · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by blindzebra

What is really mediocre is our fan base's knowledge of football.

This, at best.

**Idgit** · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Rynie

Wrong. Romo is totally part of the problem. He has overthrown so many wr's this year. What games are you watching?

He really has overthrown more open receivers than I ever remember seeing. Especially on routes where he's throwing across his body to his left. Not sure what it is at this point, but it's getting to where I cringe when he goes that direction on third down.

Rynie · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

He really has overthrown more open receivers than I ever remember seeing. Especially on routes where he's throwing across his body to his left. Not sure what it is at this point, but it's getting to where I cringe when he goes that direction on third down.

I cringe every time it's 3rd down, and nobody's in the backfield.

**Idgit** · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Rynie

I cringe every time it's 3rd down, and nobody's in the backfield.

I'm not at that point, but the 3rd and longs are killing us. You know once you're in that situation that things don't look good.

rickjameschinaclub · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Awakened

"I just think that's an example of how we play offensive football," Garrett said. "We very rarely like to take the freedom away from the quarterback. We like to give him answers and options. Tony is an outstanding quarterback. He sees what the defense is trying to do and tries to throw it to the appropriate guy."

He's not getting in done, Jason. You need to do something about it. The way you're doing it is producing a mediocre offense that repeatedly counts on an excellent defense to rescue it from loss.

Actually Garrett, nice way to shift the onus on the QB. Don't worry, we know Romo is getting it done, it's you we have an issue with.

rickjameschinaclub · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by DandyDon1722

Let's see - he's not getting it done but virtually saved the season on a play that hardly any other QB could make. Like last year he has had two bad games and has played good, not great since. But to say he's not getting it done is ridicules. He is not the problem. I'd rather you tell the truth and say you hate him as our QB than this or come with a solution. What would you do?

Now -- Eli Manning is not getting it done. 11 INT's 4 fumbles and four straight games of a declining QBR under 40.

What is with this obsession with Eli Manning in respect to Romo. Eli won 2 SBs, and last season he was playing MVP ball, meaning if he has a bad streak of games, it's not the same thing. Eli has taken his team to the promises land and won and you can't win a SB every year. If Romo had won a SB, then they wouldn't be harping on Romo not getting it done.

theogt · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Hoofbite

I don't think effort is Dez's problem.

I'm not sure he has the ability to mentally grasp the game.

My guess is he has a sub-90 IQ (not kidding) which makes it hard for him to process information.

rickjameschinaclub · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by a_minimalist

Sort of like how the majority of Cowboys fans are in denial about Garrett as our future head coach? Ironic

Sort of like how the majority of Garrett homers are in denial about how awful a head coach and playcaller he actually is...

rickjameschinaclub · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

I'm not at that point, but the 3rd and longs are killing us. You know once you're in that situation that things don't look good.

Do you think 3rd and longs is a new problem the Cowboys offense has been facing? If you really want to know how bad it's been since Garrett's been here, I suggest you actually go back and look at the statistics for drives for the Cowboys in respect to 3rd and longs even before this year...

**Idgit** · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

Do you think 3rd and longs is a new problem the Cowboys offense has been facing? If you really want to know how bad it's been since Garrett's been here, I suggest you actually go back and look at the statistics for drives for the Cowboys in respect to 3rd and longs even before this year...

So...you're unhappy with our success rate on third and longs. And this is a Garrett-thing, huh? Good to know. I'll go back and look that up so next time, I'll know.

rickjameschinaclub · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

So...you're unhappy with our success rate on third and longs. And this is a Garrett-thing, huh? Good to know. I'll go back and look that up so next time, I'll know.

Actually, let me correct your understanding. I'm actually telling you to go back and analyze how many times this offense is put in situations of 3rd and long, not the success rate on 3rd and longs... There's nothing new here in reality.. Welcome to Jason Garrett's offense...

DFWJC · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by blackbull

Romo is an inconsistent qb. Not even debatable really. Garrett is a bad Playcaller and Dez is a mental midget. All facts.

I'd say he was very consistent last season....maybe 3 bad games out of 16. Extremely hard to do better that. Almost impossible, unless you are 2011 Aaron Rodgers.

It's been harder to defend him early this season, but looking over his entire career (and not just select games) this year is an outlier. He now has 2 1/2 games running of decent ball behind him and my guess is that including that time period and going forward, we'll see him be very consistnet the rest of the year. Even then, that would be 9 or 10 games, so if he had even 2 bad games left (hope not) that would be much better than most QBs.

For example, here are the QB rating for Eli Manning over the last 4 games:
56, 41, 58, 79.
Yes, I used Eli again. But that is a complement to him to be used as a standard bearer. Not an insult.

My guess is that Romo has never strung 4 straight games of that poor of play in his entire career. My guess is he's never had more than 2 in a row.

DandyDon1722 · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

What is with this obsession with Eli Manning in respect to Romo. Eli won 2 SBs, and last season he was playing MVP ball, meaning if he has a bad streak of games, it's not the same thing. Eli has taken his team to the promises land and won and you can't win a SB every year. If Romo had won a SB, then they wouldn't be harping on Romo not getting it done.

That's all fine and good, I'm saying Eli is not getting it done this year and he's not. If you want to say Romo isn't either that's fine too but there is no comeback for that - none and I don't care what he's done.

And by the way, of the "Elite" QB's and I define them as Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, none of them have EVER had a four game stretch like he's had. He has been terrible. Season's not over yet so we'll see.