Jason Garrett appreciation thread.

[TTexasTT]

Originally Posted by a_minimalist

But it does equate to a win which seems pretty logical. The only problem is that people don't act like it's a win.

Agreed. The last minute loss to the Ravens we probably played much better. Yeah we scraped by against a pretty poor team. Now we are 5-5 and in a bad division. Maybe we can make something happen.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by a_minimalist

But it does equate to a win which seems pretty logical. The only problem is that people don't act like it's a win.

A single win is a poor proxy for future success.

[a_minimalist]

Originally Posted by Austin 3-16

The team does have fight in them and JG deserves for that.

Umm, excuse me. That doesn't count to these people. That's not good enough. They are whiny fans who want a complete 180 degree change in 2.5 years. How dare you give him credit for ANYTHING!!! He's done nothing for this team, remember that!

[TTexasTT]

Originally Posted by theogt

A single win is a poor proxy for future success.

Please, tell me more.
How would you describe a single loss?

[a_minimalist]

Originally Posted by theogt

A single win is a poor proxy for future success.

I didn't realize my post indicated that. Interesting attempt to read between the lines. They just weren't my lines. I never said a single win meant anything. You're making that up in your mind.

[a_minimalist]

Originally Posted by TTexasTT

Agreed. The last minute loss to the Ravens we probably played much better. Yeah we scraped by against a pretty poor team. Now we are 5-5 and in a bad division. Maybe we can make something happen.

That's the bottom line. We are 5-5. There is always tomorrow and I'm not giving up on the team. I think we still have a chance, although our OL is complete trash. The only thing that gives me hope is that we have a QB who can make up for them being so horrible.

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by a_minimalist

Umm, excuse me. That doesn't count to these people. That's not good enough. They are whiny fans who want a complete 180 degree change in 2.5 years. How dare you give him credit for ANYTHING!!! He's done nothing for this team, remember that!

180 in 2.5 years? We had just won the division and won our first playoff game the year before!

Are we suppose to wait until Clint Stoerner is back and Ekuban? We have talent and any good to great coach can get this thing on track fast. Wake up!

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by a_minimalist

You can overhaul an entire OL in 2 years? Lol

Denver seems to have done it in a single year.

Last year, their OL was awful. Putrid. Absolutely horrid.

This year, they're one of the best in the NFL.

In 2011 they gave up 42 sacks and 68 hits.

This year so far, 11 sacks 25 hits.


What about Buffalo though?

2009: 46 Sacks, 103 QB Hits

2011: 23 Sacks, 69 QB Hits




Yeah, it's possible to get better play from the OL over 2 years. 2 full draft classes and 2 full free agency periods.........pretty sure that's enough to get some things done.

It's funny how turning around a secondary in a single season was the main objective in Dallas. Some might even say that they succeeded to a certain extent, especially before Church went down.

But turning around an OL over the span of 2 years.......that's just unheard of.

[TTexasTT]

Originally Posted by Aven8

180 in 2.5 years? We had just won the division and won our first playoff game the year before!

Are we suppose to wait until Clint Stoerner is back and Ekuban? We have talent and any good to great coach can get this thing on track fast. Wake up!

[a_minimalist]

Originally Posted by Aven8

180 in 2.5 years? We had just won the division and won our first playoff game the year before!

Are we suppose to wait until Clint Stoerner is back and Ekuban? We have talent and any good to great coach can get this thing on track fast. Wake up!

We don't have as much talent as you think we do. OL, FS, WR!, RB. We have a young group of strong players. That is something that has changed in the last 2 years. Also, what was our record when JG took over? Clearly the year before didn't mean anything. I know that doesn't fit into your argument and it's ignored though. I get you guys, I really do.

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by dallasfan4lizife

you do???

I've had debates with him of plenty on this topic, and still have no idea why he supports garrett.

Thats easy to figure out. Its what he sees in the future.

He sees the next Tom Landry.

He sees all of this in the process.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by a_minimalist

I didn't realize my post indicated that. Interesting attempt to read between the lines. They just weren't my lines. I never said a single win meant anything. You're making that up in your mind.

If that wasn't your point, what was it?

[TTexasTT]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

Denver seems to have done it in a single year.

Last year, their OL was awful. Putrid. Absolutely horrid.

This year, they're one of the best in the NFL.

In 2011 they gave up 42 sacks and 68 hits.

This year so far, 11 sacks 25 hits.


What about Buffalo though?

2009: 46 Sacks, 103 QB Hits

2011: 23 Sacks, 69 QB Hits




Yeah, it's possible to get better play from the OL over 2 years. 2 full draft classes and 2 full free agency periods.........pretty sure that's enough to get some things done.

It's funny how turning around a secondary in a single season was the main objective in Dallas. Some might even say that they succeeded to a certain extent, especially before Church went down.

But turning around an OL over the span of 2 years.......that's just unheard of.

Really nice cherry picked stats. Amazing work! Lets just ignore the other glaring facts.
Im new here but already have found a troll and get to use my ignore list.

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by Aven8

but I respect his opinion even though I think he's out of his mind.

Wow, this makes a whole lotta sense.

[Wolfpack]

I dont get how you had a playoff OL (that was aging) and you blow it up with no plan what so ever. No one could play last year and they did very little to improve this year...some backup guard FA's and some street guys.

Little drafting for starters and no depth what so ever.