Black Friday thread.

[CashMan]

Originally Posted by Romo 2 Austin

I have a friend that works at Target and Target let employees volunteer for Thanksgiving and paid double if they do. On black friday its not volunteer but they still get Time and a half. This system is fair in my view. Walmart is forcing employees to work for regular rate on Friday and simply time and a half on Thurs. They open at 8pm so if an employee usually makes $10 per hour they come out making an extra $20 to give up the holiday. That is a scam.

Atleast with Target they are giving employees working on the holiday much more and black friday a nice extra sum of money.

How are they forcing people to work black Friday? It is just another day on the calender.

[Yeagermeister]

Originally Posted by CashMan

How are they forcing people to work black Friday? It is just another day on the calender.

Exactly.....if they don't want to work they don't have too but they may not have a job but they have a choice

[Romo 2 Austin]

Originally Posted by CashMan

How are they forcing people to work black Friday? It is just another day on the calender.

Most retailers give the employees time and a half on Black Friday despite it not being a holiday. Of course employees should be expected to work that day if scheduled, Thanksgiving itself is a different story.

[Jammer]

I'm with everyone having a day with their family, but when I was in the Air Force I worked part time jobs all the time. Thanksgiving was an off day and I didn't like it because I didn't get paid because the place was closed. There are a lot of people like me who wouldn't get paid if the stores are closed on Thanksgiving.

My daughter is one of them. She works for a temp agency and the pay is pretty good (better than the "real" workers where her job is) but she doesn't get the holiday off with pay. When they're open on certain holidays she gets double pay. So she is missing a day of work, and she doesn't like that.

[Yeagermeister]

Originally Posted by Jammer

I'm with everyone having a day with their family, but when I was in the Air Force I worked part time jobs all the time. Thanksgiving was an off day and I didn't like it because I didn't get paid because the place was closed. There are a lot of people like me who wouldn't get paid if the stores are closed on Thanksgiving.

My daughter is one of them. She works for a temp agency and the pay is pretty good (better than the "real" workers where her job is) but she doesn't get the holiday off with pay. When they're open on certain holidays she gets double pay. So she is missing a day of work, and she doesn't like that.

If you don't have a family the holidays in the military sucks even worse if you are overseas.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Romo 2 Austin

Anyone going out to the stores or just ordering online from sites such as Newegg and Amazon.

Also what is everyones feelings on stores opening at 8pm on Thanksgiving?

My girl friend loves it, she is a black friday shopper. I will be in Dallas for the football game but she is expecting me back on friday around noon to go shopping with her. Yeah me...

[Kangaroo]

If you work for a Hospital only Thursday is a holiday and you have to work Friday at normal pay rates.

If you are a nurse or a few positions that require you to work Thursday and are Hourly you get double time.

Having them work Friday does not deserve over time pay or Holiday pay by any means.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

If you work for a Hospital only Thursday is a holiday and you have to work Friday at normal pay rates.

If you are a nurse or a few positions that require you to work Thursday and are Hourly you get double time.

Having them work Friday does not deserve over time pay or Holiday pay by any means.

The amount of work those employees put in far exceeds their normal duties. A company that pays them extra is standing out as doing right by their employees. A nurse is not a equal comparison as they have no insane spike in their work.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Romo 2 Austin

The amount of work those employees put in far exceeds their normal duties. A company that pays them extra is standing out as doing right by their employees. A nurse is not a equal comparison as they have no insane spike in their work.

True but many of these employees are part time jobs. Many stores hire extra staff for this time of the year and they are not full time workers.

[dexternjack]

I did a black friday once, that was last year at Best Buy. I get a rush over electronics and the deals on them. We were in the market for a new TV at that time, so I thought it would be cool to stand in line for a few hours and grab(steal) a TV for peanuts.

Big mistake. I got in line at 10pm, BB was set to open at midnight. It was a rainy, cold night in San Francisco. I finally got in the store around 3am and was out by 5am with a new plasma smart TV for almost half the cost. Looking back, it was worth it but I will never attempt that again.

This Friday, I will head there around 8am because there will still be deals on a lot of stuff, don't need a TV or a computer this year so it should be ok.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

True but many of these employees are part time jobs. Many stores hire extra staff for this time of the year and they are not full time workers.

Seasonal employees could be viewed as an exception but in my view these businesses are making more in this day then they usually make in a week so paying full time and year round part timers making a few extra dollars on The busiest day of the year is a nice thing for the business to do plus instead of miserable employees moping around that day they will have a spike in morale. It could be argued as a win-win. These people make 9-12 per hour so time and a half is not expensive relatively for black friday.

1000 Walmarts have employees planning to walk out on Friday. If they were paying time and a half this problem could most likely be evaded.

[DallasCowpoke]

Originally Posted by Romo 2 Austin

Most retailers give the employees time and a half on Black Friday despite it not being a holiday.

Since when?

[Hoofbite]

I'm surprised it took this long for stores to try and get a head start on the competition.

Why don't they open up with half their stock on Wednesday?

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by Romo 2 Austin

The amount of work those employees put in far exceeds their normal duties. A company that pays them extra is standing out as doing right by their employees. A nurse is not a equal comparison as they have no insane spike in their work.

Then you no nothing about nurses or health care if you are spouting that non sense.

How are they doing stuff beyond their normal duties stocking, greeting cashing people out they do it daily the only difference is the amount of sales done in a day.

[Questfor6]

Going out for Black Thursday night for my first (hopefully last) time this week. Need a new TV and there are a lot of good deals on Samsungs at Wally World this year. Definitely don't think working a holiday at regular pay is right, where I work if you work a holiday you get 8 hrs holiday pay plus double time for your actual shift, turns out to be a nice chunk of change.