Two wins in a row!

[DenCWBY]

[quote=Doomsday101;4850720]As long as you can keep yourself in the race you have a chance to get things turned around. I saw teams like Philly last season who were playing some of the best football in the league late in the year but were already out of the race. Right now Dallas is in the race and there is still an oppertunity to play to their potential. Cowboys have shown they are capable of playing very good football they just need to bring it for 4 qrts[/quote

Yes Phili has a knack of getting it together at the end of the year and they have done it several times before. Also the Gboys, Steelers and Pats seem to have this trend.
Hmm what do they have in common? Top rated wnership/management/coaching. They all understand their capabilities and egos are in check. They provide strong leadership and create a working football culture where everyone knows their place and players enjoy playing. They always churn for better talent and don't get emotionaly involved with their own handpicked talent. They have a structure where they don't paint themselves in a corner with false expectations only to have eat their words later on looking foolish. Ultimately they are driven to win superbowls, not to make the most $$ and sell the most apparel. They don't care for the limelight and focus on improving their team at all costs. That is where our Boys are different.

[zrinkill]

Originally Posted by DenCWBY

quote=Doomsday101;4850720]As long as you can keep yourself in the race you have a chance to get things turned around. I saw teams like Philly last season who were playing some of the best football in the league late in the year but were already out of the race. Right now Dallas is in the race and there is still an oppertunity to play to their potential. Cowboys have shown they are capable of playing very good football they just need to bring it for 4 qrts[/quote

Yes Phili has a knack of getting it together at the end of the year and they have done it several times before. Also the Gboys, Steelers and Pats seem to have this trend.
[View Full Quote]Hmm what do they have in common? Top rated wnership/management/coaching. They all understand their capabilities and egos are in check. They provide strong leadership and create a working football culture where everyone knows their place and players enjoy playing. They always churn for better talent and don't get emotionaly involved with their own handpicked talent. They have a structure where they don't paint themselves in a corner with false expectations only to have eat their words later on looking foolish. Ultimately they are driven to win superbowls, not to make the most $$ and sell the most apparel. They don't care for the limelight and focus on improving their team at all costs. That is where our Boys are different.

I cannot even read that.

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by TTexasTT

Other than wanting to share that you are anticipating a loss I dont understand your post. I assume that almost every fan us fully aware of all the short comings and misfortune of this team. Being fully aware of these issues and still having a realistic shot at the post season is reason enough for me to be happy.

And I'm not trying to ruin that for you. Just expressing my own opinion on the subject.

It would be awesome if we were 10-0 throwing shut outs and racking up yardage records would obviously be preferred, but 5-5 will do.
This team really hasnt shown any signs that it can sustain quality football for a whole game but the fact that it has shown that it can play with any team in the league when executing properly gives me hope.
The Browns and Eagles arent exactly powerhouses but the Skins sure arent either. In fact most of the remaining schedule is against less than elite teams. I cheer for the Boys to continue to make positive strides while taking full advantage of the weak schedule. Beating the odds will make the season more enjoyable.

As I said, nothing wrong with folks being positive or optimistic.

Wallowing in the gloom and turning a blind eye to the positives would make for a miserable year. Being a realist and being a fan are two different things.

For some people maybe.

I don;t consider them as mutually exclusive.

My fandom does not force me to overlook this team's many warts.

[TTexasTT]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

And I'm not trying to ruin that for you. Just expressing my own opinion on the subject.
As I said, nothing wrong with folks being positive or optimistic.

For some people may

I don;t consider them as mutually exclusive.

My fandom does not force me to overlook this team's many warts.

I could never overlook all the gaping holes in this team either. Perhaps this is why I feel good about our position to make a move toward the post season. You are damn sure allowed to have you own feelings about this situation.
Perhaps Thursday youll see something that will change your stance and youll have atleast a bit more optimism moving forward.
I dont know about you but a one sided beat down of the Redskins would work wonders for my confidence.

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by TTexasTT

I could never overlook all the gaping holes in this team either. Perhaps this is why I feel good about our position to make a move toward the post season. You are damn sure allowed to have you own feelings about this situation.
Perhaps Thursday youll see something that will change your stance and youll have atleast a bit more optimism moving forward.
I dont know about you but a one sided beat down of the Redskins would work wonders for my confidence.

I sure hope so!

Believe me I've been looking!

My frustration has reached the point of apathy.

I was so unhappy 'riding the roller-coaster' that I have essentially 'checked-out' and simply watch the games, arms crossed taking whatever comes my way.

Helps my sanity.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by DenCWBY

Yes Phili has a knack of getting it together at the end of the year and they have done it several times before.

Also the Gboys, Steelers and Pats seem to have this trend.

Hmm what do they have in common?

Top rated ownership/management/coaching. They all understand their capabilities and egos are in check.

They provide strong leadership and create a working football culture where everyone knows their place and players enjoy playing.

They always churn for better talent and don't get emotionaly involved with their own handpicked talent.

They have a structure where they don't paint themselves in a corner with false expectations only to have eat their words later on looking foolish.

Ultimately they are driven to win superbowls, not to make the most $$ and sell the most apparel. They don't care for the limelight and focus on improving their team at all costs.

[View Full Quote]That is where our Boys are different.

Originally Posted by zrinkill

I cannot even read that.

Hope this helps, .. because you need to read it.

[Doomsday101]

[quote=DenCWBY;4850837]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

As long as you can keep yourself in the race you have a chance to get things turned around. I saw teams like Philly last season who were playing some of the best football in the league late in the year but were already out of the race. Right now Dallas is in the race and there is still an oppertunity to play to their potential. Cowboys have shown they are capable of playing very good football they just need to bring it for 4 qrts[/quote

Yes Phili has a knack of getting it together at the end of the year and they have done it several times before. Also the Gboys, Steelers and Pats seem to have this trend.
[View Full Quote]Hmm what do they have in common? Top rated wnership/management/coaching. They all understand their capabilities and egos are in check. They provide strong leadership and create a working football culture where everyone knows their place and players enjoy playing. They always churn for better talent and don't get emotionaly involved with their own handpicked talent. They have a structure where they don't paint themselves in a corner with false expectations only to have eat their words later on looking foolish. Ultimately they are driven to win superbowls, not to make the most $$ and sell the most apparel. They don't care for the limelight and focus on improving their team at all costs. That is where our Boys are different.

Cowboys have the ability to make a run. I don't know if they will or not. If you want to sit there and act like it is over and done be my guest. If history was constant we would have the same teams in the SB every year it is not a constant. As for Jones he is getting players most who cover the Cowboys see that talent so enough BS on Jones, he is getting players and allowing the HC to coach the team. All this crying over Jerry give it a rest

[stasheroo]

[quote=Doomsday101;4850969]

Originally Posted by DenCWBY

Cowboys have the ability to make a run. I don't know if they will or not. If you want to sit there and act like it is over and done be my guest. If history was constant we would have the same teams in the SB every year it is not a constant. As for Jones he is getting players most who cover the Cowboys see that talent so enough BS on Jones, he is getting players and allowing the HC to coach the team. All this crying over Jerry give it a rest

I don't see where anyone other than Jones himself is praising the 'talent' on the offensive line.

All other areas aside, the old man is delusional in how he thinks about this particular unit.

And it hurts every other part of the team and the organization.

And all of us 'negatives' have been beating that same drum (accurately) for the past several years.

[Doomsday101]

[quote=stasheroo;4850996]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I don't see where anyone other than Jones himself is praising the 'talent' on the offensive line.

All other areas aside, the old man is delusional in how he thinks about this particular unit.

And it hurts every other part of the team and the organization.

And all of us 'negatives' have been beating that same drum (accurately) for the past several years.

I think he knows a lot more than people give him credit for. Looking at recent picks Dallas has done pretty good in terms of talent. He is letting Garrett run the team now while some may not like that fact is he is not telling Garrett who to play or who should be calling the plays during the game. Comments about any particular unit or player really does not mean much. Hell he talked highly of TO gave him a raise and cut him a couple of months later.

As for beating the drum which one is the OL or the DL or CB? Hell the drum beat his different every year.

There are things I have disagreed with Jerry on but looking over the last few season, I see him listening to the people with the scouting department and his HC. He is letting Garrett do what he wants as he should. If Garrett fails that is on Garrett

[stasheroo]

[quote=Doomsday101;4851004]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

I think he knows a lot more than people give him credit for.

In many ways, yes.

But his 'comfort level' works as a detriment to the organization.

Looking at recent picks Dallas has done pretty good in terms of talent.

I would agree with this over the past two years, but other than Tyron Smith (a draft no-brainer) that has not been the case for the offensive line. And that failure goes back years before. And that is the specific area I am referring to.

He is letting Garrett run the team now while some may not like that fact is he is not telling Garrett who to play or who should be calling the plays during the game. Comments about any particular unit or player really does not mean much. Hell he talked highly of TO gave him a raise and cut him a couple of months later.

If they 'don't mean much' don't make them. Otherwise, he becomes the boy who cried wolf, whose words no longer carry any meaning and he's basically just an embarrassing noisebox.

As for beating the drum which one is the OL or the DL or CB? Hell the drum beat his different every year.

Sorry, but it hasn't changed for a great many of us. For years now.

There are things I have disagreed with Jerry on but looking over the last few season, I see him listening to the people with the scouting department and his HC. He is letting Garrett do what he wants as he should. If Garrett fails that is on Garrett

He may listen to those people, but he's the guy who put those people there - and they know it.

And just like any other rich, powerful person, dissenting opinions are met with scorn and eventually they surround themselves with a room full of 'yes men' who tell them that every idea they have is a great one.

[demdcowboys#1]

We better wake up, because I have been far from excited about these last two wins. While they have kept us in the hunt, they havent proven anything. It hasnt shown us that these Cowboys can pose a real threat to anybody....

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Originally Posted by Boys122

We won two in a row? It feels like we've been on a losing streak.

Agreed. That's why I wonder if we can at least be happy with the two wins. I kind of feel like I'm being stupid if I am.

[kirkjrk]

Originally Posted by Fritsch_the_cat

Can we be happy about this? "Cause I'm not sure anymore.

Just giving us a worse draft position. 8-8 or 7-9

[cowboys2233]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

I very much agree with you and that's whay I'm as frustrated as I am. I have seen this team play so much better at times than what we sometimes get. If they ever put it together, they can play with anybody. But 11 weeks into the season and we still can't get any measure of consistancy.



I'm also happy that they still have something to play for.

But isn't that reason for optimism, that you've seen them play at a level where they could be competitive with anyone? It would be one thing if the team just wasn't very good but we DO have talented players. I still have faith that the collective light bulb can turn on for this team and we can get on a roll heading into the final stretch. And it starts this Thursday. Lets rock.

[Boys122]

Originally Posted by Fritsch_the_cat

Agreed. That's why I wonder if we can at least be happy with the two wins. I kind of feel like I'm being stupid if I am.

I'd feel a whole lot better if we we're playing well during those two wins. Let's win a few more in a row and block for Tony, then we can smile a little bit.