We don't even have an OT on the practice squad

[Hostile]

We don't have a QB on the PS either. Other teams do. So this means we are doomed.

We don't have a TE on the PS roster. Other teams do. This means we are doomed.

We don't have a S on the PS roster. Other teams do. This too means we are doomed.

We don't have a CB on the PS roster. Other teams do. This either means we are doomed or that other teams do not realize CBs are incidental to winning and we do.

[Mr Cowboy]

How about two backup offensive tackles on the roster? Is that a revolutionary concept?

and cut Arkin? are you kidding me?

We are down to the 4th center, and Arkin who is suppose to be the back up, still is not playing. That is one of the things that is wrong in Dallas. Being cute with the draft, and taking projects who never pan out. It is telling that your 7th round draft pick and a couple of FAs the same year, are so much further along than the 4th rounder.

Why is Arkin still on the team? Bring in a player from someone's practice squad who may actually help you on the field. During training camp they had a OT who they were high on, I think his name was Adams. He is on the Bears PS, why not bring him in and get rid of Arkin?

[Hot_Toddy]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

Great post!

Some much-appreciated information.

I hope someone from the 'braintrust' sees it and takes a look.

The Patriots and Dante Scarnecchia usually do a great job of developing linemen too.

Thanks stasheroo. I've been following him for a long time. And you're right the Pats do a great job of developing linemen.


Here is one post I found from a 49ers forum I found on the internet from 2010.

With a mention of our Cowboys tied in here...

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...c.php?t=399503


PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:40 am

Post subject: The 49ers Got A Heckuva Steal

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As someone who has followed Kopa since high school I can tell you he is an intellectual, gentle giant who plays with an aggressive on-field persona (remember he was a defensive lineman). Physically, he is a specimen who weighs over 300 lbs yet, only has a 16% body fat content (in contrast to most NFL offensive linemen who average between 24% - 30%). Kopa is also mentally tough --- reminiscent of Hall Of Famer Jack Youngblood he actually played more than half the game against Washington State with a broken foot, and still managed to make a key block to open a huge hole for Toby Gerhart to run 39 yards for a TD with less than 5 minutes remaining even though he was noticeable limping beforehand.

Kopa was expected to have a breakout year in 2009 before he was injured in the season opener. Indeed, Gil Brandt, the former Dallas Cowboy's VP for Player Personnel, spotlighted Kopa as one of the top offensive tackle prospects for the 2010 Draft and noted that he has a huge upside. He most likely would have been a high-round draft pick if he had remained healthy in 2009 and continued to develop (note that even with his injury some teams still projected him to be a 5th or 6th round pick). The primary reason Kopa wasn't drafted is because he was hoping to win his appeal with NCAA to play a 6th year at Stanford in 2010 -- which many football people expected could move him up among the top 5 offensive tackles in the 2011 draft.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

The thing that stands out about Kopa is the pleasure he takes in all of those pancake blocks he throws on opponents --- especially on off-tackle sweeps and the occasions he is able to get downfield and put the smacketh downeth on someone. Here's some video highlights of Kopa from 2008 along with the one-game in 2009 against some top-flight PAC 10 players who are now playing in the NFL. Note the very first play wherein Kopa fires off the line and pushes #10 LB Brian Cushing (2009 1st round - Texans and 2009 NFL Rookie of The Year) about 5 yards backwards before finally knocking him on his butt! That USC team also featured #47 Clay Matthews Jr. (2009 1st round - Packers), #43 Kaluka Maiava (2009 4th round - Browns), #84 Kyle Moore (2009 4th round - Bucaneers), #93 Everson Griffon (2010 2nd round - Vikings), and #2 Taylor Mays (2010 2nd round - 49ers). Moreover, Kopa displayed his versatility in that same USC game by starting at RT and then later moving over to play LT after Ben Muth was injured in the 2nd Quarter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5GzAWpQyzM

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And here's a more recent link of Kopa on the Pats prior to this season..Check out this photo of the length of his arms in comparison to the reporter next to him (Bubble watch story here as well).....

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-e...atch-matt-kopa

[Mr Cowboy]

We don't have a S on the PS roster. Other teams do. This too means we are doomed.

We don't have a CB on the PS roster. Other teams do. This either means we are doomed or that other teams do not realize CBs are incidental to winning and we do.

Come on Hos, we started the year with the PS full of S and CBs. They are on the active roster or cut. How many OL have did we have on the PS and how many have been brought up? We've had the same if not worse injuries on the OL and have yet to make a move to even help out.

[jobberone]

The OL has been problematic for some time. The failure to address it well enough in the draft creates direct and indirect consequences some longer term than others. The ripple affects the entire organization.

Our current situation is neither damning or excusable. This is the GMs responsibility.

[Cowboy4ever]

Originally Posted by jobberone

The OL has been problematic for some time. The failure to address it well enough in the draft creates direct and indirect consequences some longer term than others. The ripple affects the entire organization.

Our current situation is neither damning or excusable. This is the GMs responsibility.

I can somewhat agree. However, not all the blame goes to the GM. No GM sits down all day and reviews tape of every possible prospect and decides what is a good player or not. They rely on their scouts and their coaches and what the coaches have told the scouts what they want, etc. In our case, either our scouts have sucked, or the coaches have sucked or both. We have drafted 14 lineman since 2003. that is roughly 20% of our picks. I think that is a good number however, the picks have sucked. I know everyone thinks that Jerry sits on a throne and totally disregards everyone else in the organization and just makes every decision but that is not the case. True, he hired the coaches (includes parcells) and the scouts but for whatever reason, they haven't been able to draft well on the OL. It is not for lack of wanting to as we have put resources there in the draft.

[rocboy22]

Originally Posted by Cowboy4ever

I can somewhat agree. However, not all the blame goes to the GM. No GM sits down all day and reviews tape of every possible prospect and decides what is a good player or not. They rely on their scouts and their coaches and what the coaches have told the scouts what they want, etc. In our case, either our scouts have sucked, or the coaches have sucked or both. We have drafted 14 lineman since 2003. that is roughly 20% of our picks. I think that is a good number however, the picks have sucked. I know everyone thinks that Jerry sits on a throne and totally disregards everyone else in the organization and just makes every decision but that is not the case. True, he hired the coaches (includes parcells) and the scouts but for whatever reason, they haven't been able to draft well on the OL. It is not for lack of wanting to as we have put resources there in the draft.

bolded: this is why it is the GM's responsibility

[Cowboy4ever]

Originally Posted by rocboy22

bolded: this is why it is the GM's responsibility

So are you saying that Parcells was a bad hire? We can argue over Wade and Garrett but Parcells was a proven coach. He sucked at drafting OL just like everyone else here. Don't know what it is, might just be bad luck, but for the last 9 or 10 years, we haven't hit on OL in the draft and that is thru 3 differnt coaches and directives.

[rocboy22]

Originally Posted by Cowboy4ever

So are you saying that Parcells was a bad hire? We can argue over Wade and Garrett but Parcells was a proven coach. He sucked at drafting OL just like everyone else here. Don't know what it is, might just be bad luck, but for the last 9 or 10 years, we haven't hit on OL in the draft and that is thru 3 differnt coaches and directives.

no, it had nothing to do with Parcells in particular, just stating that the blame for the OL rests with Jerry. He isn't absolved because we have tried but the scouts/coaches didn't do a good job in evaluation and coaching them up. He is responsible for those scouts/coaches. he is responsible for everything.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

and a guy signed right off the street is worse of course. Which is all that is left right now.

Not if its a vet. PS guys have almost no real live fire experience, which CAN be worse than a vet off his couch.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by Alexander

Yes, I did count them on my "little survey".

Someone needs to notify eighteen teams that they are wasting their time having tackles on the practice squad. Chicago, Miami and San Francisco must be especially stupid because they have two tackles on their squads.

Thanks for the info.

No one said anyone was stupid, but keep quoting yourself silly for the sake of argument.

None of that changes my point. Taking a LT off the PS and starting him with a week of real practice would be hell for Romo.

The number of LT's (not just "tackles" btw) on other practice squads doesn't change that.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

Cook is still injured and 50 year old Dockery can't even play guard. If you put him at tackle, it will exploit his lack of athleticism even further. Sorry, but that is a recipe for failure.

Sorry, but just about any team that loses both tackles is going to be in a world of hurt -- making this some sort of Cowboy critique is way off-base

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

Sorry, but just about any team that loses both tackles is going to be in a world of hurt -- making this some sort of Cowboy critique is way off-base

Grandma could pick this runner off first and she has to roll the ball over.

[WoodysGirl]

Originally Posted by Alexander

I saw someone here post the other day questioning if an OL on the PS had any utility.

I think it was one of the moderators.

I questioned what an OL could do on the PS seeing as we had other needs due to the injuries in the secondary. I stand by that statement since that's what we needed at the time.

Time passes and circumstances change, but the reality is a developmental OL just added to the PS on a Wed doesn't mean they'll be ready to start on game day.

At this point, the team should be looking for vets to go on the regular roster not the PS.

Originally Posted by CowboyFan74

I believe that was our girl uhh, I mean Woody's Girl...

It was...

[arglebargle]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

just making more excuses for the neglect of the O line

"Everyone has problems with the O line"

Just an excuse

There is none for the Dallas Cowboys.

There is no excuse for you other than axe-grinding, apparantly...

What part of 'everyone has this problem' did you miss? You could argue against that, with some actual examples of how this is not the case. Or you could dismiss it out of hand because it doesn't meet your agenda. You could even wonder why we haven't picked up Holland, and I'd be agreeing with you.

Are you wishing for Costa to be back yet?