If Sean Payton comes to Dallas

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I already said I think it's a longshot myself. One way or another, I suspect he's back in New Orleans.

The real issue is the people who wouldn't prefer him if he becomes available. And no, it's not offended, more like mystified.

But like bird said, to some people it's more about their egos and predictions than the success of the team.

Yeah, he was wrong. So are you. Have a great evening though.

[Howardlittleton64]

No matter who the Coach in Dallas is he won't have success with Mr. Jones and company in charge of football operations. He won't be allowed to being in his own staff. He'll have the owner/GM contradicting him in the media. That same owner/GM will go get players he wants regardless of what the coach says. He'll have a front office that has no idea or plan on how to build a team.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by birdwells1

So....your saying there is a chance.

It sound like you're downright giddy either that we won't be upgrading severely in the coaching department or Garrett will be keeping his job which one is it?

Giddy? More like amused that self professed "realists" are engaged in such a fantasy.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Howardlittleton64

No matter who the Coach in Dallas is he won't have success with Mr. Jones and company in charge of football operations. He won't be allowed to being in his own staff. He'll have the owner/GM contradicting him in the media. That same owner/GM will go get players he wants regardless of what the coach says. He'll have a front office that has no idea or plan on how to build a team.

Don't forget 'a fanbase with a serious persecution complex.'

[Howardlittleton64]

Originally Posted by Idgit

Don't forget 'a fanbase with a serious persecution complex.'

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by birdwells1

So....your saying there is a chance.

It sound like you're downright giddy either that we won't be upgrading severely in the coaching department or Garrett will be keeping his job which one is it?

Just because Payton signs back doesn't mean Garrett keeps his job.

Ill be borderline shocked if he goes 8-8 or 7-9 and keeps his job.

[dfan32]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

Also Sean Payton has 7 mill on the table right now from the Saints. They are ready to make him the highest paid coach in the league and he still hasnt signed.

Not to 'weigh in' on this discussion but if Sean Peyton is suspended from any contact with the Saints organization, how could he sign it?

[theebs]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I know, you're right. Sad and strange, isn't it?

But you'd think that even people who were on the Garrett bandwagon would see that he isn't the next Tom Landry, or even a good coach.

Well, some like theebs have seen the weight of the evidence and have changed their opinions, but others with bigger egos can't do that.

And even if you think Garrett is a "good" head coach -- which is pretty much impossible to argue -- wouldn't you still upgrade if you had the chance?

The only thing different between this team and the 2002 campo team is romo.

I mean honestly, this team right now is as poorly run as that one and I would take Zimmer over rob Ryan everyday of the week.

Oh I guess that team actually beat Washington on thanksgiving so that is one other difference.

In 2002 we lost four straight in December to finish the year, I have a feeling that Could happen again.

Everyone loves to goof on campo, right now we are seeing the same level of poor coaching and incompetence. The difference? Romo is coercing up a lot of crap and we are just a touch better than those campo teams right now.

It's just sad.

[Kilyin]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

The only thing I'll say about Payton to Dallas is I do believe the reports that this is the one place he'd consider leaving New Orleans for.

Other than that, sorry....I just don't believe it's going to happen. I think it would take an epic collapse to make Jerry give up on Garrett after two years. He's only ever done that with Chan Gailey and he said he regrets it.

Jerry is a lot older now. He also fired Gailey after a 10-6 and 8-8 season, and Gailey made it to the playoffs both seasons. This isn't gonna be a 10-6 season, maybe not an 8-8 either, and we aren't going to make the playoffs, if I were a betting man.

That being said, I don't see it happening either. We're stuck with the Garrett.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

Just because Payton signs back doesn't mean Garrett keeps his job.

Same here, I still think Holmgren is a possibility.

[Howardlittleton64]

Originally Posted by Kilyin

Jerry is a lot older now, and he ain't getting any younger. He also fired Gailey after a 10-6 season. This isn't gonna be a 10-6 season, if I were a betting man.

That being said, I don't see it happening either.

8-8
They were 10-6 his first season if memory serves.

[Risen Star]

For the record, I'm for bringing in Payton or Holmgren or Gruden or some other coach with a Super Bowl winning resume. Only because it would force Jerry back into Parcells mode. Not because the head coach is the problem here.

The actual coaching I don't think will be a significant change. It's a Jerry issue, not a Garrett issue.

[Kilyin]

Originally Posted by Howardlittleton64

8-8
They were 10-6 his first season if memory serves.

Yeah I edited my reply. For some reason I remembered Gailey being fired during the 10-6 year. It's been a long, bumpy ride.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I already said I think it's a longshot myself. One way or another, I suspect he's back in New Orleans.

The real issue is the people who wouldn't prefer him if he becomes available. And no, it's not offended, more like mystified.

But like bird said, to some people it's more about their egos and predictions than the success of the team.

You're right.

[Bluestang]

Here's a play that Sean Payton/Brees run as a bread and butter play of the NO offense.