YR's My Meaningless Thoughts On The Offense...

[Kilyin]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

I just want to be crystal clear, while this is a flaw with him, it's not something that he's trying to overcome on a snap by snap basis.

Romo, just like any other QB, needs a clean pocket and clear throwing lanes.

Brees is practically standing on his toes when he throws over the middle, and watch how he has his head tilted to get every little inch that he can see.

Despite that shortcoming (no pun intended, or maybe it is?) he's still the most accurate passer in the NFL.

I know what you mean. I bet Romo would shave 3 inches off his height to have a clean interior pocket to step up into though, even if he had to jump into the air to throw a pass.

I think this is an interesting topic, especially since players continue to get larger. It's amazing to me that Russell Wilson has been as successful as he has at 5'11".

Sorry to derail your thread Rich.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Kilyin

I know what you mean. I bet Romo would shave 3 inches off his height to have a clean interior pocket to step up into though, even if he had to jump into the air to throw a pass.

I think this is an interesting topic, especially since players continue to get larger. It's amazing to me that Russell Wilson has been as successful as he has at 5'11".

Sorry to derail your thread Rich.

Russell Wilson also has one of the best pockets in the NFL w/ 3.89 AVG time to a sack.

Here's some PFF numbers on Romo to think about:

Passsing Direction:

Middle:

0-9 yds - 159 att, 130 cmp, 1054 yds 3 TDs/3 INTs

10-19 yds - 45 att, 27 cmp, 510 yds 1 TD/5 INTs

20+ yds - 17 att, 3 cmp, 95 yds 1 TD/ 1 INT

[percyhoward]

The biggest difference between the offense this year compared to last year is that we've gone from the 4th best pass offense (100.1 rating) to the 14th best (87.3).

I'm curious to know why anyone would say that the loss of Laurent Robinson isn't the main cause, given these passer ratings...

2011
Robinson 132.2
everyone else 93.9

2012
Ogletree/Beasley/Harris 62.9
everyone else 91.8

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by percyhoward

The biggest difference between the offense this year compared to last year is that we've gone from the 4th best pass offense (100.1 rating) to the 14th best (87.3).

I'm curious to know why anyone would say that the loss of Laurent Robinson isn't the main cause, given these passer ratings...

2011
Robinson 132.2
everyone else 93.9

2012
Ogletree/Beasley/Harris 62.9
everyone else 91.8

I mentioned before that we need a big, fast guy on the outside. I think JG is missing that down the field deep threat in his offense.

Robinson ran a 4.38 40, he didn't look fast on TV but something tells me that he was a fast guy on the football field.

I have the same feeling about Dwayne Harris even though he didn't time fast on his 40, he just looks "football fast" to me.

[ThePlaymaker14]

Have not read through the replies. Just wanted to say this was en excellent read. Thanks YR

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by percyhoward

The biggest difference between the offense this year compared to last year is that we've gone from the 4th best pass offense (100.1 rating) to the 14th best (87.3).

I'm curious to know why anyone would say that the loss of Laurent Robinson isn't the main cause, given these passer ratings...

2011
Robinson 132.2
everyone else 93.9

2012
Ogletree/Beasley/Harris 62.9
everyone else 91.8

For the record, you're right about this. I just thought it was evident from your posts and that there wasn't much to say about it, other than 'good job.'

I bet those numbers go up with Harris getting more time, though. He looks good out there, and he's a big part of what we've been missing. Beasley, too, to a lesser extent.

[Bluestang]

Number of Romo INTs from the middle (inside of the numbers) of the field:

2008 - 9
2009 - 5
2010 - 6
2011 - 5
2012 - 10

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Russell Wilson also has one of the best pockets in the NFL w/ 3.89 AVG time to a sack.

Here's some PFF numbers on Romo to think about:

Passsing Direction:

Middle:

0-9 yds - 159 att, 130 cmp, 1054 yds 3 TDs/3 INTs

10-19 yds - 45 att, 27 cmp, 510 yds 1 TD/5 INTs

20+ yds - 17 att, 3 cmp, 95 yds 1 TD/ 1 INT

What kills me here is the intermediate number. Up until this year I would have said that Romo was the best and most effective intermediate passer in the league and that his short game was his worst. Now his intermediate game has gone to crap.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

Different scheme than ours.

IIRC, the other team that showed major interest in Romo out of college was Broncos, who had Shanahan and his WCO installed.






YR

This post is not quoted enough. Romo in a Shanahan offense would've been deadly. I think it would be effective even without the run game that Shanahan relies on.

[Kilyin]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Number of Romo INTs from the middle (inside of the numbers) of the field:

2008 - 9
2009 - 5
2010 - 6
2011 - 5
2012 - 10

Do those only go back to 2008?

Makes you wonder why they don't design more bootlegs and rollout plays, especially this year. And by they, I mean Garrett. Might as well have Torrin Tucker and Rob Pettiti playing Tackle again.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Kilyin

Do those only go back to 2008?

Makes you wonder why they don't design more bootlegs and rollout plays, especially this year. And by they, I mean Garrett. Might as well have Torrin Tucker and Rob Pettiti playing Tackle again.

Yes.

The way Callahan is coaching the OTs to take the rushers past the front of the pocket I wouldn't run any bootlegs or rollouts. That's like an automatic sack for the defense.

[Kilyin]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Yes.

The way Callahan is coaching the OTs to take the rushers past the front of the pocket I wouldn't run any bootlegs or rollouts. That's like an automatic sack for the defense.

Then based on everything we've talked about and the flaws in our offense, why hasn't the scheme been adjusted? Why can't our coaches design a play that's blocked for Romo to roll out of the pocket? You know, "Romo friendly".

I'm really not being sarcastic here. I guess YR is right, we just don't know how to make ANY adjustments, or Garrett is just too stubborn.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by Kilyin

Then based on everything we've talked about and the flaws in our offense, why hasn't the scheme been adjusted? Why can't our coaches design a play that's blocked for Romo to roll out of the pocket? You know, "Romo friendly".

I'm really not being sarcastic here. I guess YR is right, we just don't know how to make ANY adjustments, or Garrett is just too stubborn.

Never underestimate the stubbornness of someone who thinks they are so smart they can baffle you w/ BS and deflect when it fails.

I have said this for 4 years.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Kilyin

Then based on everything we've talked about and the flaws in our offense, why hasn't the scheme been adjusted? Why can't our coaches design a play that's blocked for Romo to roll out of the pocket? You know, "Romo friendly".

I'm really not being sarcastic here. I guess YR is right, we just don't know how to make ANY adjustments, or Garrett is just too stubborn.

Rollout plays usually leave the backside defender to chase the QB, do you really want that down after down, snap after snap?

Romo friendly should also include running the ball but we flat out suck at that. Romo is not learning any new scheme anytime soon, he's fine in this one and just needs better blockers upfront.

Shanahan has actually tailored his scheme to RG3's Baylor offense. He's slowly inserted his WCO plays to bring him along. But now you are talking about a rookie who is being developed into the scheme, which is entirely different than trying to teach-up a veteran.

Coaches just don't switch up their scheme entirely, they find the personnel to make it work.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Shanahan has actually tailored his scheme to RG3's Baylor offense. He's slowly inserted his WCO plays to bring him along. But now you are talking about a rookie who is being developed into the scheme, which is entirely different than trying to teach-up a veteran.

Coaches just don't switch up their scheme entirely, they find the personnel to make it work.

Your first paragraph contradicts your second one. When has Shanahan ever run that read option before this year? Never. Why do you think he suddenly did that?

Good coaches may not "switch up their schemes entirely", but they absolutely adjust their play calls to fit their personnel. That's coaching 101.