Who isn't giving up on the season? - Page 6 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Funxva · 11-27-2012

I have not given up on the season. I will root for the team each and every game.

jnday · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

Whoa, now. I told you to wait-and-see re: the OL, and it turned out you were completely wrong in your take. Be honest, at least. The concern--and by 'concern' I mean 'source of constant, never-ending multi-threaded teeth-gnashing gibbering angst around here was Phil Cost and the OC position. It was not having a backup C. It was were-we-going-to-spend-$50M-on-a-FA-OG, and I-hate-the-FA-OGs-we-signed-they-can't-play. It was I'm-not-worried-about-the-tackles.

[View Full Quote]What we got, instead, was solid play at LG, remarkable play from Costa in basically a single game. We ended up with a serviceable veteran C at a reasonable price who held up adequately under very difficult situations, a RG who missed camp, had surgery, started poorly, and has leveled off into an adequate player. And a disappointment at LT and a confusing hole in need of an immediate upgrade at RT. I was right to tell you to wait and see what you were going to get, because it was very, very different from what you expected. Just because you were overwhelmingly negative in your position to start with, doesn't mean you get to take credit when things turn our poorly for completely unrelated reasons. Accuracy matters.

As to 'only seeing the positive,' I know some posters who don't pay all that close attention think that...because I aggressively defend the team from arguments I think are weak or, in some cases, beyond stupid. There are a lot of them (stupid arguments). But I've got plenty of criticisms about this team. I've been on turnovers forever, because that's the real reason we're in the position were in again this season. I'm critical of the coach when it comes to the penalties and clock management. I criticize the red zone running game efficiency (though not the play calling), our WR's route adjustments and focus, roster decisions like Derrick Dockery who can't pickup a single stunt or handle a delayed blitz. Our QB play at times this year has not been good enough. There are a lot of things about the team that I don't like or that I recognize need to be done better, and I'm not shy about sharing it. It just gets ignored in the cacophony of complaints about anything and anyone that moves around here.

What I don't agree with is the idea that, because some things aren't good, everything must change. The fact is, we're a ~500 team, in a league where the difference between ~500 and championship contention can be 20-25 plays all season, and where an 8-8 record is not necessarily a median record. Sometimes, you really do have to be patient to see what's going to happen because the intervening games affect the season. Otherwise, you end up freaking out early about your OG positions, and it ends up being the OTs or the ILBs that get you killed in the win-or-go-home game in week 17, and we all look back on your early hysteria and tease you about how silly your posts look in retrospect while you're taking a victory lap for being pessimistic for all the wrong reasons and hoping nobody notices. Nobody wants to be that guy.

We debated Costa and I still stand with my position that four linemen needs replaced. I.was not in favor in favor of signing any free agent linemen. I want the line drafted. The line ended up a mess. I was wrong about one thing. Romo hasn't got injured, yet.

The line is the main reason that this team will not reach the playoffs. Injuries and turnovers have hurt, but several more games would have been won with decent line play. As I stated earlier, there is no need to wait and see what this team does. It is over and has been for a while.

As for being negative, I sure am. Being a Cowboy fan for over 40 years and seeing the sorry level of play the last several years, tends to make me that way. There are several posters on this board that could do a better job running this team than the current GM.

Ultra Warrior · 11-27-2012

I'm not giving up on it. So long as there's a chance, no matter how small or how unlikely, I'm still pulling for my team til we win the Super Bowl or we're eliminated.

panchucko · 11-27-2012

Never quit, if the boys get mathematically eliminated, I will still root for them to be spoilers, Stealers, Saints and Redskins maybe playing for their playoff lives.

CowboysPhan · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

You'd think we'd all be aware of that by now. Seriously. No? What am I missing that this stuff is an open debate? Is it really just boiling down to people who are depressed about the team wanting the people who are excited about it to feel the same way they do? And vice versa? Even though both sides really know they have to just wait to see how it plays out? Because that seems pretty silly.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! I think this is exactly what is going on here, and why there are so many posters sniping at each other. Misery loves company, and so does optimism. When anyone feels very strongly about something, they naturally want others to share in their feelings, and when they encounter people with the extreme opposite viewpoint it just annoys the bejeebers out of them. This is true of people on both sides of the spectrum.

WPBCowboysFan · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by gimmesix

Count the Cowboys out before they are mathematically eliminated.

I have never done that and will never do it no matter the odds or how hopeless it looks.

This thread is for those who feel the same way. It's not for those who call themselves realists to come in and rain on the parade. (There are plenty of other threads for the "woe-is-me" crowd.)

Lets try to keep this thread positive as you have requested.

What have you seen that gives you optimism?

What are the positives?

Why should we have hope?

We all want it - you see it - some dont - help those who dont see it.

Zimmy Lives · 11-27-2012

I've been cheering for this team since 1967 so I am not about to go south on them now.

fifaguy · 11-27-2012

As long as the players don't give up, I can deal with it.

jnday · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Lets try to keep this thread positive as you have requested.

What have you seen that gives you optimism?

What are the positives?

Why should we have hope?

We all want it - you see it - some dont - help those who dont see it.

I have Stevie Wonder vision. I can't see. I can't see.

bigdnlaca · 11-27-2012

On paper Im still excited about the Cowboys, but once I see Garrett, reality kicks in.

jgboys1 · 11-27-2012

I am not. I know it's a long shot, to make the playoffs, but I still have a glimmer of hope. Even if they get knocked out of the playoff picture,

I will continue to watch there remaining games.

It's only 18 days out of the year, that we get to see our boys play and I don't want to miss any of them.

Hook'em#11 · 11-27-2012

Give up on the season? LOL...

Nawww. Still watching every single game.

Having some blind faith and being a homer delusional fanatic Cowboys fan? And, thinking by some act of God that this Cowboys team makes the playoffs..

Meh, that ship sailed a long , long time ago.

mcompact · 11-27-2012

Like the guy above said. I'll still watch every game and hope that we win, but just don't see how we can be competitive with all of the injuries + less than inspiring coaching staff. The final straws that broke my confidence were the injuries to Murray (dragging on week by friggin week) and now Carter.

If we don't slip into the playoffs, we can at least spoil it for a few other teams!

Hostile · 11-27-2012

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Originally Posted by gimmesix

Time to find out who the real Dallas Cowboys fanatics are.

Roll call.

I do not give up until mathematically eliminated. I am still excited for the coming games.

nake · 11-27-2012

Both "warring factions" will join hands and celebrate if we win the Super Bowl.

Do you hear that Jerry? You can end the discord in the Cowboys' Nation by winning. Now get crackin'!