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11-27-2012
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#91
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Lightning Rod
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Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88
The Eagles finally scored more than 10 pts before halftime which means that now we are the only team in the NFL who has yet to score more than 10 pts before the half. That needs to end this week at home against a sorry eagles defense after seeing how they have given up 30 pts the last 2 weeks.
So there is no reason why we can't break that sad streak this week of not scoring beyond 10 pts. The time is now
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but we wear nice pants on the plane
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11-27-2012
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#92
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Hostile
Oh please. This team has a poor OL. They aren't run blocking near well enough. They aren't pass blocking near well enough. Fix that and the Red Zone scoring improves. Fix that and we score more. Fix that and we win more. We are relying on our QB to make plays, bashing him when eh has to and on pure improvise mode me makes a mistake, and hunting for scapegoats left and right. Well, there they are, the 5 guys who block for our Offense. The only one I have to keep is Tyron Smith. Livings I can live with, but the other 3 are not up to par and we're paying for it.
Happy?
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And surely this offensive line just materialized from the heavens to spoil Jasons well laid plans.
Who thought these guys could play?
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11-27-2012
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#93
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Originally Posted by Idgit
I've read this thread in fits and starts. Has anybody bothered to try to sort out why we're anemic when it comes to first half points? Or are we just so frustrated by the statistic that we're not able to sort out why it happens?
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How would we sort it out? Isn't that the job of the coaching staff? Other than to say our offense is largely ineffective until they start playing from behind (which inevitably happens when you can't score more than 10 in two quarters of play) with some urgency.
Maybe it's Romo calling the plays in the no huddle shotgun offense that suddenly enables us to score? I don't know.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "
"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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11-27-2012
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#94
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
I've read this thread in fits and starts. Has anybody bothered to try to sort out why we're anemic when it comes to first half points? Or are we just so frustrated by the statistic that we're not able to sort out why it happens?
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wait, were supposed to figure this out?
i thought this was a statistic that was "quirky" and "part of blame-calling" and didnt matter?
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11-27-2012
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#95
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Lightning Rod
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Originally Posted by Hostile
Oh good grief, that's arbitrary.
Hey, back to your panic folks. Enjoy.
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Has nothing to do with panic but everything with an acknowledgement the HC cannot get them ready to play.
6-10 in the last 16 games.
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11-27-2012
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#96
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Redskins Forever
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Originally Posted by Idgit
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List of offensive penalties would help to explain what I am talking about. At least start to explain.
EDIT: Although that list shows the Redskins and Cowboys are pretty even as far as it goes.
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Originally Posted by AbeBeta
Results are facts. What if is fantasy. Teams pay for facts.
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Last edited by SkinsandTerps : 11-27-2012 at 12:04 PM.
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11-27-2012
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#97
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This thread is hilarious. People are actually "answering" the fact that we suck in the first half, by citing our terrible offensive line. How does that make our anemic first half performances any better?
We clearly aren't doing something right to start out games and that is making it much harder to win them. Sometimes we do win, like the Cleveland game, but my guess, and its just a guess, is that you if you are consistently trailing at halftime by more than one score you are going to lose more games than you win. Once again, just a guess.
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11-27-2012
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#98
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Lightning Rod
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Originally Posted by links18
This thread is hilarious. People are actually "answering" the fact that we suck in the first half, by citing our terrible offensive line. How does that make our anemic first half performances any better?
We clearly aren't doing something right to start out games and that is making it much harder to win them. Sometimes we do win, like the Cleveland game, but my guess, and its just a guess, is that you if you are consistently trailing at halftime by more than one score you are going to lose more games than you win. Once again, just a guess.
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The only ones doing that are Garrett supporters.
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11-27-2012
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#99
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Redskins Forever
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Originally Posted by Hostile
Whatever man. I am merely asking why 11 is safe and 10 is alarms going off. The number seems damned arbitrary to me. Like I said, if it had been 2 TDs I think I'd have been more concerned. From now on I promise if we score 4 FGs instead of TDs I will pee myself in excitement that we broke this magic barrier.
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Perhaps the turnovers have something to do with it also...
Redskins dominated the first half and should not have. Both teams have mediocre OLs, both teams have injuries, both teams have talent missing or injured...it comes down to coaching. Not saying that Red is the only problematic coach...but his job is to coach the coaches.
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Originally Posted by AbeBeta
Results are facts. What if is fantasy. Teams pay for facts.
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11-27-2012
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#100
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The Instant Classic
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Originally Posted by Kilyin
How would we sort it out? Isn't that the job of the coaching staff? Other than to say our offense is largely ineffective until they start playing from behind (which inevitably happens when you can't score more than 10 in two quarters of play) with some urgency.
Maybe it's Romo calling the plays in the no huddle shotgun offense that suddenly enables us to score? I don't know.
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What I meant was 'spend more time talking about the likely causes' and less time 'complaining about the unfortunate effects.'
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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11-27-2012
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#101
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That Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
Whatever man. I am merely asking why 11 is safe and 10 is alarms going off. The number seems damned arbitrary to me. Like I said, if it had been 2 TDs I think I'd have been more concerned. From now on I promise if we score 4 FGs instead of TDs I will pee myself in excitement that we broke this magic barrier.
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I could be wrong... But I would guess that we're the only team who hasn't scored more than 11 in a first half too.
And the correlation is obvious. You have a better chance of winning when you lead at halftime. When you're not scoring in the first half, that's more difficult.
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11-27-2012
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#102
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We averaged 11.4 in the first half last season. Averaging 6.6 this year. Pretty big dropoff.
For perspective, in 2007 we averaged 13.1 in the first half.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "
"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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11-27-2012
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#103
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That Guy
Joined: | Aug 2005 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by links18
This thread is hilarious. People are actually "answering" the fact that we suck in the first half, by citing our terrible offensive line. How does that make our anemic first half performances any better?
We clearly aren't doing something right to start out games and that is making it much harder to win them. Sometimes we do win, like the Cleveland game, but my guess, and its just a guess, is that you if you are consistently trailing at halftime by more than one score you are going to lose more games than you win. Once again, just a guess.
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To add to this... If you blame the poor starts solely on the OL, then I would assume you would think the OL gets markedly better in the second halves of games.
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11-27-2012
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#104
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Originally Posted by peplaw06
To add to this... If you blame the poor starts solely on the OL, then I would assume you would think the OL gets markedly better in the second halves of games.
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and if that is the case why are they not better in the first half?
Poor game plan?
WHY?
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11-27-2012
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#105
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Right Kind of Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peplaw06
I could be wrong... But I would guess that we're the only team who hasn't scored more than 11 in a first half too.
And the correlation is obvious. You have a better chance of winning when you lead at halftime. When you're not scoring in the first half, that's more difficult.
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Great, so from now on I will worry about winning the first half and calling it mission accomplished if we do.
For the final time, I ask for a correlation across the league. It apparently has been too much to ask. I hate the slow starts, but 11 points is in fact arbitrary as I said. This would have made more sense to me to say 2 TDs, again as I have said.
I have learned today that if we score a 1st half TD we need to go for 2 points instead of a PAT because if we score a FG it increases our chances of winning. Awesome info. 
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