The built in excuse

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by Zimmy Lives

I hear you.

My problem is: When is Jerry going to allow his coach to build his team and run his system which may actually work? This team was a mess when JG took over and most expected things to get worse before they got better.

Yes, marquis players like Witten and Ware maybe have to be sacrificed but isn't that the price of progress? JG has kept this team competitive and talent does appear to be building. If Jerry pulls the rug out from under him now then it will another two years wasted for nothing.

I want to see what JG can do with his guys and his system before I give up on him as a coach. As much as I agree with you concerning his philosophies, I am willing to wait and see if he can deliver long term.

We should be able to get talent with or without Jason Garrett.

Give me a coach that will call & design plays that are based on our players strengths.

Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

He took over a team that won its first playoff game in 15 years about 6 months earlier. Some mess.

The year we lost to the Vikings we looked like an absolute juggernaut at the end of the season.

Even though we saw the end result of the Wade Phillips era I think the Cowboys have looked better under him than at any point with Jason Garrett.

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by Zimmy Lives

I hear you.

My problem is: When is Jerry going to allow his coach to build his team and run his system which may actually work? This team was a mess when JG took over and most expected things to get worse before they got better.

Yes, marquis players like Witten and Ware maybe have to be sacrificed but isn't that the price of progress? JG has kept this team competitive and talent does appear to be building. If Jerry pulls the rug out from under him now then it will another two years wasted for nothing.

I want to see what JG can do with his guys and his system before I give up on him as a coach. As much as I agree with you concerning his philosophies, I am willing to wait and see if he can deliver long term.

No offense, but where is this 'progress' you speak of?

I have seen Witten, Romo, and Ware be great.

I have never seen the same from Jason Garrett other than behind a podium.

I think it's much easier to find a better coach than to hope that you can replace possibly three potential hall-of-fame players at marquee positions.

[Risen Star]

I'm more concerned with the injuries being an excuse for less player turnover in the offseason than I am keeping Jason Garrett.

That's usually what we do. Talk change in the beginning of January after another disappointing season, then talk ourselves into why continuity is the way to go for a successful season the next year.

They need to blow up this offensive line and start over. Not blame injuries to bad players as the reason why things fell apart.

This offseason has to be about fixing this at all costs. Like last offseason should have been. And if they don't, I won't spin away talking nonsense about being excited about a new paint job on this dump and how young players can improve over time. Give me a major overhaul of the OL this winter and I'll have hope for next year. Don't, and I won't. I'll consider our 2013 season to be finished before it even started. It's as simple as that.

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by jnday

There is no doubt that Garrett had a hand in this mess. Him and Jerry should share the blame and add Callahan to the mix as well. I think this is a group effort. The three of them actually thought this mess would work. That gamble ruined the season.

Its not just this year, its the pattern in Dallas. Before the OL, it was thinking Alan Ball could be a starting NFL FS along with Street FA Frank Walker as your CB depth. But the team had three kickers and a "weapon" on ST's that year from the 2009 ST draft!

[arglebargle]

Apparantly, there are absolutely no reasons that anything ever happens, only excuses....

[Chocolate Lab]

Yes, very afraid of that. Mosley said this morning he was starting to get that feeling, which is scary.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

Anyone else scared that Jason may get his job saved because of all the injuries we have recently have?

Last year it was the no offseason excuse and now I think this year he'll get the injuries excuse.


I really hope Jerry isn't sitting back and just waiting to drop this excuse on our fan base.

I believe he has already said, this week, injuries are not an excuse.

[superpunk]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

Anyone else scared that Jason may get his job saved because of all the injuries we have recently have?

Last year it was the no offseason excuse and now I think this year he'll get the injuries excuse.


I really hope Jerry isn't sitting back and just waiting to drop this excuse on our fan base.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by superpunk

[Hostile]

Silly me, I thought it was going to be "I really hope I'm wrong."

[links18]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Its not just this year, its the pattern in Dallas. Before the OL, it was thinking Alan Ball could be a starting NFL FS along with Street FA Frank Walker as your CB depth. But the team had three kickers and a "weapon" on ST's that year from the 2009 ST draft!

Your actually going to bring up the David Buehler project in order to indict this organization? Low blow, dude.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

I'm more concerned with the injuries being an excuse for less player turnover in the offseason than I am keeping Jason Garrett.

That's usually what we do. Talk change in the beginning of January after another disappointing season, then talk ourselves into why continuity is the way to go for a successful season the next year.

They need to blow up this offensive line and start over. Not blame injuries to bad players as the reason why things fell apart.

This offseason has to be about fixing this at all costs. Like last offseason should have been. And if they don't, I won't spin away talking nonsense about being excited about a new paint job on this dump and how young players can improve over time. Give me a major overhaul of the OL this winter and I'll have hope for next year. Don't, and I won't. I'll consider our 2013 season to be finished before it even started. It's as simple as that.

Even Sean Payton is hired here and the OL is not fixed as soon as he calls his bread and butter 4 Verticals play, Romo is going to be taking one in the chin.

OL needs to be fixed first instead of trying to hire a new coach with same group.

[17yearsandcounting]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Even Sean Payton is hired here and the OL is not fixed as soon as he calls his bread and butter 4 Verticals play, Romo is going to be taking one in the chin.

OL needs to be fixed first instead of trying to hire a new coach with same group.

Not every coach is deluded enough to think that he shouldnt change gameplans and schemes based on who his personnel is.

Because that 4 verticals play was the staple of his time in Dallas.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

Not every coach is deluded enough to think that he shouldnt change gameplans and schemes based on who his personnel is.

Because that 4 verticals play was the staple of his time in Dallas.

it's a staple of the New Orleans offense genius

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Even Sean Payton is hired here and the OL is not fixed as soon as he calls his bread and butter 4 Verticals play, Romo is going to be taking one in the chin.

OL needs to be fixed first instead of trying to hire a new coach with same group.

I think there is little doubt that no matter who is here (insert your favorite here), the team isn;t going anywhere without vast improvement from the offensive line.