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11-28-2012
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Jerry Jones can't get fooled again
IRVING, Texas -- When Jerry Jones looked at the Dallas Cowboys' roster this past January, he saw a team capable of competing for a Super Bowl.
It's important to note that Jones' definition of competing for a Super Bowl is merely qualifying for the playoffs, which is technically accurate.
But the Cowboys' owner and general manager convinced himself that his team could have done what the New York Giants did if only it had left MetLife Stadium on New Year's Day the victor in the de facto NFC East title game. Or if only a couple of plays here or there had turned out differently. Or if the Cowboys had not suffered injuries to key players.
So Jones entered 2012 believing the Cowboys were ready to close the gap with major tweaks to the secondary and minor tweaks to the offensive line when you factor in only the economics of the moves made to acquire Brandon Carr, Morris Claiborne, Mackenzy Bernadeau and Nate Livings.
Jones was fooled.
On his Tuesday morning radio show on KRLD-FM, Jones acknowledged that mathematically, the 5-6 Cowboys are still alive for the playoffs, leaving unsaid that realistically the team does not look ready to roll off five straight wins to perhaps get in the tournament.
He also said the final five games of the season can serve as an evaluation period.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowbo...t-fooled-again
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11-28-2012
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A competent GM who wasnt surrounded with family and yes men would not have been fooled in the first place.
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11-28-2012
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When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn.
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Wasn't he fooled with QC, thinking they could win 10 games with him. Isn't that why they got rid of Tony Banks before he even played a regular season game. So he can and will be fooled again.
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11-28-2012
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Originally Posted by panchucko
Wasn't he fooled with QC, thinking they could win 10 games with him. Isn't that why they got rid of Tony Banks before he even played a regular season game. So he can and will be fooled again.
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huh? was this sarcastic? they did win 10 games with Quincy.
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HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-28-2012
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Jerry for President!
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11-28-2012
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The Cowboys hope DeMarco Murray can return this week against the Philadelphia Eagles, which should help the running game simply because it cannot be worse. The Cowboys hope Tyron Smith can come back to play left tackle this week. They hope Jay Ratliff can return from a groin injury. They hope Miles Austin's hip flexor/low back strain will be OK. They hope Mike Jenkins can play the slot cornerback role.
That's what this season has come down to: hope.
Cowboys fans, dwindling as they might be with more than a decade and a half of so-so football, have to hope Jerry Jones does not get fooled again.
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8-8 and out of the playoffs in 2011. It'll be a challenge to repeat that record this year. It is what it is. Hope doesn't win championships. Mediocrity has been Jerry Jones legacy post Jimmy and it will continue if he remains stubbornly wanting to call the shots on the football side.
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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11-28-2012
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Originally Posted by silver
8-8 and out of the playoffs in 2011. It'll be a challenge to repeat that record this year. It is what it is. Hope doesn't win championships. Mediocrity has been Jerry Jones legacy post Jimmy and it will continue if he remains stubbornly wanting to call the shots on the football side.
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You're ignoring the advantages of being structured this way. There's no middle man. He can take risks that fail and keep taking more risks without fear of losing his job.
That's a real boon for the team.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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11-28-2012
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
You're ignoring the advantages of being structured this way. There's no middle man. He can take risks that fail and keep taking more risks without fear of losing his job.
That's a real boon for the team.
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The only advantage I can think of is related to the bottom line financially. He pockets the GM's and OC's salaries. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if our VP of Operations, Stephen Jones, is grossly underpaid compared to other execs around the league.
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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11-28-2012
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Originally Posted by silver
The only advantage I can think of is related to the bottom line financially. He pockets the GM's and OC's salaries. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if our VP of Operations, Stephen Jones, is grossly underpaid compared to other execs around the league.
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He is going to grossly fall into a third of two billion dollars some day. Meanwhile I doubt he clips coupons or looks at the dollar menu.
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11-29-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by panchucko
Wasn't he fooled with QC, thinking they could win 10 games with him. Isn't that why they got rid of Tony Banks before he even played a regular season game. So he can and will be fooled again.
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Did we hit the playoffs with Quincy?
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11-29-2012
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When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trueblue1687
Did we hit the playoffs with Quincy?
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Yes we did, but I still remember that presser in 2001 I think it was after 2nd preseason game. QC had a good game, and it was then that Jerry thought he had found his Mike Vick, he said something to like we got together and I asked Dave Campo, do you think QC could lead us. It was then that they cut Tony Banks. I can still visualize the presser.
I know he won 10 games with Parcells, but it was his rookie year that jerry had the rose colored glasses on with QC
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11-29-2012
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#12
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Lightning Rod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rocboy22
huh? was this sarcastic? they did win 10 games with Quincy.
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not the year he did it but yeah you are right
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11-29-2012
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#13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RS12
Jones was fooled.
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Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me 17 years in a row... What the.... 
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