The Value Of A Head Coach

[houstonwhodat]

With all the talk of Sean Payton and Dallas it is quite obvious the value of a genuine, creative, talented head coach.

Horrible game by the Saints tonight.

This game was easily winnable and it is obvious that Brees is trying too hard and trying to make plays that aren't there. He feels it is all up to him.

He is not the same without Sean Payton.

SP would never have allowed that poor clock management at the end of the first half and the play calling would not be as one dimensional.

Brees lost this game with his 5 interceptions. What is he turning into a Brett Favre gunslinger?

If Sean Payton does not return to the Saints, Saints fans can only expect more of the same.

There is no doubt Tony Romo could benefit by having Sean Payton to be his mentor.

[17yearsandcounting]

Whats that?

You like poor clock management and one dimensional playcalling?

I've got JUST the guy for you.

[cml750]

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

With all the talk of Sean Payton and Dallas it is quite obvious the value of a genuine, creative, talented head coach.

Horrible game by the Saints tonight.

This game was easily winnable and it is obvious that Brees is trying too hard and trying to make plays that aren't there. He feels it is all up to him.

He is not the same without Sean Payton.

SP would never have allowed that poor clock management at the end of the first half and the play calling would not be as one dimensional.

Brees lost this game with his 5 interceptions. What is he turning into a Brett Favre gunslinger?

If Sean Payton does not return to the Saints, Saints fans can only expect more of the same.

There is no doubt Tony Romo could benefit by having Sean Payton to be his mentor.

Excellent post. There is very little doubt Payton does an excellent job doing double duty HC / OC. There is also very little doubt that Garrett does a TERRIBLE job doing double duty.

Payton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Garrett

[WPBCowboysFan]

With the salary cap and parity in the NFL, the HC makes all the difference in the world.

The HC is what separates the good teams from the rest, and it is one of the major reasons the Cowboys are a mediocre team.

[Bluestang]

Since SP was the HC in 2006 - 2011 the NO Saints have averaged 108.9 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.2 attempts/game.

Since 2007-2011 Garrett's offense has averaged 115.38 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.32 attempts/game.


I think it's pretty obvious that both coaches' philosphies are the same.

[visionary]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Since SP was the HC in 2006 - 2011 the NO Saints have averaged 108.9 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.2 attempts/game.

Since 2007-2011 Garrett's offense has averaged 115.38 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.32 attempts/game.


I think it's pretty obvious that both coaches' philosphies are the same.

the blind worship of a horrible HC, who has NEVER been successful at anything he has done, just doesnt end

[Shinywalrus]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Since SP was the HC in 2006 - 2011 the NO Saints have averaged 108.9 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.2 attempts/game.

Since 2007-2011 Garrett's offense has averaged 115.38 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.32 attempts/game.


I think it's pretty obvious that both coaches' philosphies are the same.

This post doesn't make sense to me.

There were 13 teams last season who passed between 58-62% of the time last season. Included in that list are the New Orleans Saints, Washington Redskins, Buffalo Bills, Indianapolis Colts, Dallas Cowboys and Arizona Cardinals.

By implication, you seem to be saying that those teams all have the same offensive philosophies, a point which I think we can all agree is silly enough not to merit additional discussion. Effectiveness and frequency of running the ball might tell you 5-10% of the nature of an offensive scheme, but by no means would it make the connection between two philosophies "obvious" without a lot more detail in other areas.

[WV Cowboy]

A good head coach needs the talent, .. and talent needs a good head coach.

So if there is talent there, a good head coach makes all of the difference.

Look what Brian Kelly has done at ND, who has had talent but struggled for years.

Look at what Harbaugh has done at SF when others could not.

We all have seen the success that seems to follow Nick Saban.

The right coach can change everything.

[ykc]

I agree with this 100%....but JJ doesn't agree with this, so that is all that matters until our GM changes or his attitude changes

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

A good head coach needs the talent, .. and talent needs a good head coach.

So if there is talent there, a good head coach makes all of the difference.

Look what Brian Kelly has done at ND, who has had talent but struggled for years.

Look at what Harbaugh has done at SF when others could not.

We all have seen the success that seems to follow Nick Saban.

The right coach can change everything.

[Apollo Creed]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Since SP was the HC in 2006 - 2011 the NO Saints have averaged 108.9 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.2 attempts/game.

Since 2007-2011 Garrett's offense has averaged 115.38 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.32 attempts/game.


I think it's pretty obvious that both coaches' philosphies are the same.

One guys philosophy is centered around having his QB routinely shatter records and winning Super Bowls.

I'll take that guy over all of JG's potential and hollow numbers he produces. Since Tony Sparano left the offense has regressed and like they say in Anchorman - that is a scientific fact.

[CowboyGil]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Since SP was the HC in 2006 - 2011 the NO Saints have averaged 108.9 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.2 attempts/game.

Since 2007-2011 Garrett's offense has averaged 115.38 rushing yds/game while averaging 26.32 attempts/game.


I think it's pretty obvious that both coaches' philosphies are the same.

As David Byrne would say: Stop making sense.People on this board don't listen to it anyway.If you're not slamming the entire organization then you're nothing but a rose colored glasses wearing sunshine pumping diluted homer.

[birdwells1]

Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

Whats that?

You like poor clock management and one dimensional playcalling?

I've got JUST the guy for you.

well played.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by visionary

the blind worship of a horrible HC, who has NEVER been successful at anything he has done, just doesnt end

So...you've got nothing to address his actual point, then? Other than to point out that he supports Jason Garrett and isn't going to stop unless you're able to actually convince him of anything?

[birdwells1]

Originally Posted by Idgit

So...you've got nothing to address his actual point, then? Other than to point out that he supports Jason Garrett and isn't going to stop unless you're able to actually convince him of anything?

Honestly, I want Payton to coach the Cowboys and its because of the tangible accomplishments he's had throughout his career, I think those would continue here.

The people that support JG just can't come up with tangible evidence that he has improved this team.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by birdwells1

Honestly, I want Payton to coach the Cowboys and its because of the tangible accomplishments he's had throughout his career, I think those would continue here.

The people that support JG just can't come up with tangible evidence that he has improved this team.

That's fine. I don't have a problem with people wanting Payton. In my book, he's basically a Jason Garrett who's already proven himself and who might like to play for Jerry Jones. Why wouldn't you want that?

Now, I don't think he's coming here, and I think the chances that he ever would are basically zero, but that's beside the point.

But when Bluestang makes a good point about the effectiveness and play calling tendencies of both guys when it comes to running the football--and it was a good point--I think his argument deserves better than an eye roll from someone who's unwilling or unable to counter it. Don't you?