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rickjameschinaclub · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

You simply don't get it, consider yourself ignored from this point forward.

No I get your love for Garrett, despite his tenure as straight sucking...

**ABQCOWBOY** · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Venger

Brrrrwwwhhhhaaaaaooookay.... Tyron got beat alot last night, if Free's guy wasn't already hitting Romo it'd have been more apparent. His LT play continues to be spotty.

Well, nobody wants to hear this but it may be that Tyron is a RT. These discussions were had early on during the draft discussions. Tyron will get more time to prove he can play LT but right now, he looks like a bad fit for it IMO. Time will tell.

**Idgit** · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

No I get your love for Garrett, despite his tenure as straight sucking...

I think he's ignoring you.

dmq · 12-03-2012

I was encouraged by a few things:
OL seemed to get a little better as the game went on. This is against a very deep Philly DL.
We finally got a little pressure in the 4th on defense.
Dez maybe developing into something.
Defense, I just want to see us play hard. I know this defense isn't the same w/ the injuries, but would love to see some guys take advantage of the situation.

visionary · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

Just to be clear I don't believe in this argument that the players started playing out of the system.

That's too convenient for the Garrett haters and once again the goal posts moved in their quest to prove that Garrett is the problem.

of course you dont, it is too convenient for garrett lovers to say this

put Kyle Orton under center and watch the system fail

romo bails out RJ and his lack of imagination several times every game

**Idgit** · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by visionary

of course you dont, it is too convenient for garrett lovers to say this

put Kyle Orton under center and watch the system fail

romo bails out RJ and his lack of imagination several times every game

Just like 2010, when Romo went down. That kind of every time? Or just the pretend kinds of every time that haven't happened yet and so can't be verified one way or another?

rickjameschinaclub · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

Just like 2010, when Romo went down. That kind of every time? Or just the pretend kinds of every time that haven't happened yet and so can't be verified one way or another?

So there is only one solution... Go get Jon Kitna and replace him as a starting QB over Tony Romo so we can see JG's brilliance shine forth once again...

BTW, that system did fail by the end of the year... That's another myth of the JG lovers.. That team scored a whopping 13 points against the Eagles, when they started Kolb. 4 out of those 8 games, Kitna didn't even break 200 yards passing. Jon Kitna threw 12 INTs. It just so happened the defense started to get turnovers and they played some awfully bad teams.

They actually ran the ball and played especially conservative, which will get you a few wins, but not anywhere near a play-off team.

But yeah, let's just leave out the part of Jerry threatening the whole team that they were playing for their jobs...

**Idgit** · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

So there is only one solution... Go get Jon Kitna and replace him as a starting QB over Tony Romo so we can see JG's brilliance shine forth once again...

BTW, that system did fail by the end of the year... That's another myth of the JG lovers.. That team scored a whopping 13 points against the Eagles, when they started Kolb. 4 out of those 8 games, Kitna didn't even break 200 yards passing. Jon Kitna threw 12 INTs. It just so happened the defense started to get turnovers and they played some awfully bad teams.

They actually ran the ball and played especially conservative, which will get you a few wins, but not anywhere near a play-off team.

But yeah, let's just leave out the part of Jerry threatening the whole team that they were playing for their jobs...

Dang that Jason Garrett. I just knew he was responsible for something bad happening that season, but I just wasn't sure what it was. Good to know, now.

And, hooray for Jerry Jones for making the team so much better by threatening their jobs! He should totally do that every week then. What a GM he'd be if he threatened the players more.

nake · 12-03-2012

I read a blurb somewhere that said Free had "technique" problems which were corrected at halftime, so he played better in the 2nd half.

My question is a simple one: why did the coaching staff wait until halftime when he was looking like the worst OL in the history of the sport? Why not put in the swing tackle and coach him up immediately, then put him back in?

Apollo Creed · 12-03-2012

Garrett minus Romo would be ugly. Anyone remember the Brad Johnson days?

**jobberone** · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

You simply don't get it, consider yourself ignored from this point forward.

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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

No I get your love for Garrett, despite his tenure as straight sucking...

You couldn't possibly be more wrong if you tried to. Learn what a cover 2 is and how to attack it with our offense successfully. Then you will understand how to get a safety to commit and beat the coverage.

Rack Bauer · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

- The overall theme I came away from this game was this is the most encouraged I had been by the team since the week 1 victory against the G-Men. I thought overall, the team looked somewhat disciplined and prepared. I liked how both Demarco and Felix gutted it out and we ran the ball well. I thought Tyron played great, Livings mediocre, Cook was Cook, Benardeau very well and Free was awful. But overall, I thought the O-Line was serviceable. I thought Dez played superb. We started using Dez, Miles and Witten to their strengths. I thought defensively the 3 ‘true starters’ (Spencer, Ware and Hatcher) played great. And of course, anytime you can beat the Eagles, that is a good thing.

You're kidding, right? Bernardeau was horrible.

Livings had a better game than Bernardeau.

Rack Bauer · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by burmafrd

when has Romo thought he could step up in the pocket?

What pocket?

And the JG apologists in this thread have given me great entertainment. Thank you.

rickjameschinaclub · 12-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

Dang that Jason Garrett. I just knew he was responsible for something bad happening that season, but I just wasn't sure what it was. Good to know, now.

And, hooray for Jerry Jones for making the team so much better by threatening their jobs! He should totally do that every week then. What a GM he'd be if he threatened the players more.

There you go missing the point again. I wasn't trying to argue that a small stretch of games proves a guy as a genius. You are..

You see, these type of changes are bandages on wounds and only temporarily mask apparent issues, like being a pathetic coach in reality or having an owner threaten you with your job. As time goes on, then reality sets in, like it does with Garrett, and he gets exposed more and more everyday.

It became apparent by the end of the season yet again that year... Kitna was throwing less than 200 hundred yards a game and had a whopping 12 INTs.

It's funny how Garrett's supporters blame all of Garrett's problems as lack of turnovers on defense, no OL, and so on and so forth, but when the team actually gets TOs and the like, suddenly it's a result of Garrett...

Then the next year happened... and this year...

Like another poster happened, we can also see Garrett's record with Brad Johnson... So I guess we should follow your logic and bench Romo and bring in Kitna, so we can see for ourselves the genius of JG... what you say?

**Idgit** · 12-04-2012

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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

There you go missing the point again. I wasn't trying to argue that a small stretch of games proves a guy as a genius. You are..

You see, these type of changes are bandages on wounds and only temporarily mask apparent issues, like being a pathetic coach in reality or having an owner threaten you with your job. As time goes on, then reality sets in, like it does with Garrett, and he gets exposed more and more everyday.

It became apparent by the end of the season yet again that year... Kitna was throwing less than 200 hundred yards a game and had a whopping 12 INTs.

It's funny how Garrett's supporters blame all of Garrett's problems as lack of turnovers on defense, no OL, and so on and so forth, but when the team actually gets TOs and the like, suddenly it's a result of Garrett...

Then the next year happened... and this year...

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I say this post is very tenuously tethered to reality because you're addressing arguments that aren't even being made and the attributing them to me or to an entire group of people who don't agree with you. At least you got all the proper names right.

And that that thing you're referring to in your first sentence as a 'point'...it isn't actually a point. I'm not arguing that that stretch of games in 2010 made anybody a genius.