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12-03-2012
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#46
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Senior Member
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Andrew Luck, and it was an easy decision. QB's like Luck dominate and win championships. QB's like RGIII are exciting and great fun to watch, but in the final analysis it is their passing ability that will determine their level of success, IMO.
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12-03-2012
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#47
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2006 |
Posts: | 724 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
Griffin is an athlete playing a college gimmick offense by a head coach that knows he needs to spoon feed him slowly to avoid a debacle.
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You're such a hater, That is pure speculation. So I take it you were there after they drafted Griffin, showed him last year's offense, and realized he couldn't what...comprehend it? Please, tell us more of your fairytales.
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12-03-2012
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#48
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Run-loving Dino
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | 1-star thread |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan
Its a flat out lazy and racist comparison. Its that simple
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The guy RG3 really reminds me of is Steve Young. Only Griffin probably has even better leadership qualities.
Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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12-03-2012
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#49
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2006 |
Posts: | 724 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan
I certainly will. Luck will be great. RG3 a generational superstar.
Please find me any article right now that proves what you are stating. I have an article which you ignore because it doesn't fit your narrative. Certainly you would point to something in the PFF article that is wrong. But you can't because the facts don't fit your narrative. Your opinion is contrary to fact, which is why you go with the "pro style offense canard" which you can't even prove objectively. I am open to discussion about the offenses.
I am sure your level of understanding is far superior you would refute this
[View Full Quote]The problem is you can't because you don't know what you are talking about. You seem to equate RG3 to Vick which demonstrates your lack of understanding of the QB position. If you can't provide some objective facts, go sit in the corner and come back when you have big boy stuff. I'll watch RG3 torch your secondary for the next 15 years
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SkinsHokiefan,
He can't offer facts when he's made up everything he's stated so far. The only facts he has offered is that Michael Vick has not been a good QB. Which doesn't bother me, Griffin and Vick are two different people. Vick isn't accurate, Vick can't read defenses, Vick folds under pressure, Vick turns the ball over constantly. Aside from them being two blacks guys who can run fast, there are no similarities for anyone not looking through blue and silver glasses
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12-03-2012
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#50
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2007 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
The guy RG3 really reminds me of is Steve Young. Only Griffin probably has even better leadership qualities.
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I really hope that turns out not to be true. Another Vince would be an order of magnitude better for the Cowboys than another Steve.
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12-03-2012
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#51
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RG3 is a pocket passer at heart. There are many times when he can just take off and run, but he hangs in the pocket looking to pass.
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12-03-2012
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#52
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2006 |
Posts: | 724 |
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I find it interesting that when Griffin's stats are compared to Luck's, pro-Luck arguments immediately mention how he'll get better in time and he'll be an all-pro for the next decade. Which I don't disagree with at all, yet these same "objective" people offer zero consideration for Griffin getting better with experience. Instead of suggesting he could possibly develop like Steve Young, we get him becoming punch drunk like Vick.
I find it very hard to believe that a guy with Griffin's work ethic, won't be able to stay ahead of the game...adapt, adjust and improve over the offseason as defensive coordinators formulate schemes to counter the more successful plays of this offense.
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12-03-2012
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#53
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We got a hat. I want a ring.
Joined: | Jan 2008 |
Location: | Duncan, Oklahoma |
Posts: | 21,131 |
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RGIII is playing great right now and I don't know if he will play like that for good or not, time will tell there for sure, but I believe Luck is simply the better QB.
Now and through the entire future.
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12-03-2012
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#54
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2010 |
Posts: | 124 |
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Guys I have been wondering the whole season not about who is better but what if Luck had the skins schedule and griffen had the colts schedule.Im sure you will agree with me that the nfc east is alot better devision than the afc south right?
Luck is a good qb right now and will probably be great but thats yet to be determined.The oponents that luck has to face this year are not that good and all the teams in his division is absolutely terrible but one.So with his easy schedule every year he will definetly be better. Now if you put luck the skins schedule this year with all the nfc teams twice and nfc south I honestly don't know if he would have griffens numbers right now 17 tds and 4 ints.Now maybe he would but what im trying to say is that you will never find out what the true answer to this question is on this topic.two different qbs and two different roads with griffins road being alot tougher and rougher.thats just my opinion
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12-04-2012
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#55
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Drunken Mick
Joined: | Aug 2005 |
Location: | Dublin, Ireland |
Posts: | 1,864 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan
RG3 a generational superstar.
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Oh settle down you child.
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12-04-2012
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#56
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Joined: | May 2005 |
Location: | WHITE SANDS NM |
Posts: | 38,187 |
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it is hilarious to read Skins fans posts; their idea of reality really does belong in Washington
Las Cruces NM
White Sands NM
Where men are men and the sheep are scared!
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12-04-2012
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#57
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Location: | In transition |
Posts: | 9,350 |
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They'll both be the two best quarterbacks in football for the next six or seven years, they're different in style, but anyone attempting to pretend rg3 is Vick is offensively ignorant, displaying more than a football prejudice but character deficiency in their self as well, shame on the parties in question and we know who they are.
The steve young comparison is most accurate, I don't know if either of these guys will ever win a super bowl though, the excellence of rg3 isnt going to receive much help in the draft in the coming years and so despite his personal brilliance the team might experience overall arrested development.
The colts have better odds of improving in the draft quicker but the afc is once more the lesser conference and luck could well end up like a Jim Kelly or dan Marino , a great one that never won it all
Conan O'Brien will work you until you are pale !
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12-04-2012
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#58
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1st Round Pick
Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2013
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 25,175 |
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You can't go wrong but if I had to pick I would go with RG3.
He is a special special player. A once in a lifetime player. He's the best QB that happens to be a crazy athlete that i've ever seen.
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12-04-2012
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#59
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Banned
Joined: | Apr 2010 |
Posts: | 1,691 |
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With four games to go last year the Skins were 4-8, now they are 6-6. The Colts were 0-12 and now they are 8-4. Washington's total offense has risen from 336 ypg to 383 ypg while Indy's has gone from 286 ypg to 392 ypg.
While I think both a great players, Luck has brought his team back from the bowels of the NFL in just one year to make them a playoff competitor. Luck means more to his team than RG3 does.
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12-04-2012
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#60
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Drunken Mick
Joined: | Aug 2005 |
Location: | Dublin, Ireland |
Posts: | 1,864 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aikbach
They'll both be the two best quarterbacks in football for the next six or seven years,
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Are Brees, Manning x2, Brady, and Rodgers just retiring at the end of the season?
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