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12-06-2012
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Non-Team-Specific Mock Draft
It's rankings with Position Value taken into account (i.e. No Guards in the top 10).
Please give me 1 player that I've overrated and 1 that I've underrated.
1 Luke Joeckel OT
2 Star Lotulelei DT
3 Jarvis Jones OLB
4 Damontre Moore DE
5 Manti Te'o ILB
6 Dee Milliner CB
7 Bjoern Werner DE
8 Barkevious Mingo OLB
9 Johnathan Hankins DT
10 John Jenkins DT
11 Geno Smith QB
12 Matt Barkley QB
13 Taylor Lewan OT
14 Johnthan Banks CB
15 Sheldon Richardson DT
16 Sam Montgomery DE
17 Dion Jordan DE
18 Ezekiel Ansah DE
19 Eric Fisher OT
20 Anthony Barr OLB
21 Chance Warmack OG
22 Jonathan Cooper OG
23 Dallas Thomas OT
24 Cordarrelle Patterson WR
25 Justin Hunter WR
26 Alec Ogletree ILB
27 Keenan Allen WR
28 Tavon Austin WR
29 DeAndre Hopkins WR
30 C.J. Mosley OLB
31 Barrett Jones OG
32 Tyler Eifert TE
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12-06-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
It's rankings with Position Value taken into account (i.e. No Guards in the top 10).
Please give me 1 player that I've overrated and 1 that I've underrated.
1 Luke Joeckel OT
2 Star Lotulelei DT
3 Jarvis Jones OLB
4 Damontre Moore DE
5 Manti Te'o ILB
6 Dee Milliner CB
7 Bjoern Werner DE
8 Barkevious Mingo OLB
9 Johnathan Hankins DT
10 John Jenkins DT
11 Geno Smith QB
12 Matt Barkley QB
13 Taylor Lewan OT
14 Johnthan Banks CB
15 Sheldon Richardson DT
16 Sam Montgomery DE
17 Dion Jordan DE
18 Ezekiel Ansah DE
19 Eric Fisher OT
20 Anthony Barr OLB
21 Chance Warmack OG
22 Jonathan Cooper OG
23 Dallas Thomas OT
24 Cordarrelle Patterson WR
25 Justin Hunter WR [View Full Quote]26 Alec Ogletree ILB
27 Keenan Allen WR
28 Tavon Austin WR
29 DeAndre Hopkins WR
30 C.J. Mosley OLB
31 Barrett Jones OG
32 Tyler Eifert TE
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Good list. Overrated for me would be B. Mingo. Every list has him high in the draft. I watched him most of the games and look at his stats and he does nothing for me. Of course it very well could be me since everyone else seems to like him.
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12-06-2012
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Overrated: John Jenkins- I think he's gonna go in the 20's. He's a nice player, but only in certain situations. Not an every down player.
Underrated: Alec Ogletree- I think if he adds a little weight and still maintains his speed he can shoot up into the teen's somewhere.
They were the only 2 I would put up much of an argument on. A couple of the WR's at the bottom of the list are a little questionable but they are athletic enough where I could them going late 1st.
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12-07-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tm1119
Overrated: John Jenkins- I think he's gonna go in the 20's. He's a nice player, but only in certain situations. Not an every down player.
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Yea, he jumped out at me. I like the idea of taking a NT, but he's much further down on my list. He'll be a really good 2 down player, but that doesn't warrent him being the 10th best player in this draft, more like in the 20s.
I actually like his teamate Kwame Geathers much more. Bigger (6'6 355 vs 6'3 358), likely stronger and faster. Also the more productive player (5 TFL/1 sack vs 2 TFL/1 sack).
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12-07-2012
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Overrated Milliner. He's not a top 6 talent. Barkley is also overrated.
Underrated would be Warmack. I don't subscribe to the silly notion of not taking interior offensive linemen high in the draft. I don't care about past history. They are vitally important on gameday. Chance is one of the top 10 prospects in this draft class. Ogletree should be ten spots higher.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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12-07-2012
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Dee Milliner is pretty far up there, as is Ogletree. I feel like Jake Matthews should be on this list if Joeckel is number 1. While he isn't quite the athlete he's the better run blocker.
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12-07-2012
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Barkley over rated, behind any bad line he will be a turn over machine. Ogletree under rated, runs like a WR, at 235 could play SS IMO. One of the most under rated players not on the list is Minter at LSU, all the guys dies is make plays
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12-07-2012
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Please give me 1 player that I've overrated and 1 that I've underrated.
1 Luke Joeckel OT
2 Star Lotulelei DT
3 Jarvis Jones OLB
4 Damontre Moore DE
5 Manti Te'o ILB
6 Dee Milliner CB
7 Bjoern Werner DE
8 Barkevious Mingo OLB
9 Johnathan Hankins DT
10 John Jenkins DT
11 Geno Smith QB
12 Matt Barkley QB...too high
13 Taylor Lewan OT
14 Johnthan Banks CB
15 Sheldon Richardson DT
16 Sam Montgomery DE
17 Dion Jordan DE
18 Ezekiel Ansah DE
19 Eric Fisher OT
20 Anthony Barr OLB
21 Chance Warmack OG
22 Jonathan Cooper OG
23 Dallas Thomas OT
24 Cordarrelle Patterson WR
25 Justin Hunter WR
26 Alec Ogletree ILB
27 Keenan Allen WR
28 Tavon Austin WR
29 DeAndre Hopkins WR
30 C.J. Mosley OLB
31 Barrett Jones OG...slightly too low
32 Tyler Eifert TE
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12-07-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
It's rankings with Position Value taken into account (i.e. No Guards in the top 10).
Please give me 1 player that I've overrated and 1 that I've underrated.
1 Luke Joeckel OT
2 Star Lotulelei DT
3 Jarvis Jones OLB
4 Damontre Moore DE
5 Manti Te'o ILB
6 Dee Milliner CB
7 Bjoern Werner DE
8 Barkevious Mingo OLB
9 Johnathan Hankins DT
10 John Jenkins DT
11 Geno Smith QB
12 Matt Barkley QB
13 Taylor Lewan OT
14 Johnthan Banks CB
15 Sheldon Richardson DT
16 Sam Montgomery DE
17 Dion Jordan DE
18 Ezekiel Ansah DE
19 Eric Fisher OT
20 Anthony Barr OLB [View Full Quote]21 Chance Warmack OG
22 Jonathan Cooper OG
23 Dallas Thomas OT
24 Cordarrelle Patterson WR
25 Justin Hunter WR
26 Alec Ogletree ILB
27 Keenan Allen WR
28 Tavon Austin WR
29 DeAndre Hopkins WR
30 C.J. Mosley OLB
31 Barrett Jones OG
32 Tyler Eifert TE
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Green - Underrated
Red - Overrated
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Originally Posted by AdamJT13
It wouldn't have to be a first-round pick, and we will have free-agent money.
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12-08-2012
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Virtus Mille Scuta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robert70x7
Green - Underrated
Red - Overrated
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I agree but add Jonathan Cooper to the slightly underrated group
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12-08-2012
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Over-Jonathon Hankins
Under-Eric Fisher
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12-08-2012
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White and Nerdy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
It's rankings with Position Value taken into account (i.e. No Guards in the top 10).
Please give me 1 player that I've overrated and 1 that I've underrated.
1 Luke Joeckel OT
2 Star Lotulelei DT
3 Jarvis Jones OLB
4 Damontre Moore DE
5 Manti Te'o ILB
6 Dee Milliner CB
7 Bjoern Werner DE
8 Barkevious Mingo OLB
9 Johnathan Hankins DT
10 John Jenkins DT
11 Geno Smith QB
12 Matt Barkley QB
13 Taylor Lewan OT
14 Johnthan Banks CB
15 Sheldon Richardson DT
16 Sam Montgomery DE
17 Dion Jordan DE
18 Ezekiel Ansah DE
19 Eric Fisher OT
20 Anthony Barr OLB
21 Chance Warmack OG
22 Jonathan Cooper OG
23 Dallas Thomas OT
24 Cordarrelle Patterson WR
25 Justin Hunter WR
26 Alec Ogletree ILB
27 Keenan Allen WR
28 Tavon Austin WR
29 DeAndre Hopkins WR
30 C.J. Mosley OLB
31 Barrett Jones OG [View Full Quote]32 Tyler Eifert TE
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Where is OT Matthews?
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