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Old 12-07-2012   #46
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Yep.. Why would he even say this? He knows something.
Agreed. You don't come out with a statement that severe unless there's actually something there.
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Old 12-07-2012   #47
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I'm with you, Hos...I don't think it will happen. But what if...would you be onboard with the move?
I would think we are making a "good mistake." I have absolute confidence in Sean Payton. That isn't an issue. I honestly do believe Jason Garrett will in the near future be as good or better. I have my reasons for this.
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One correction, the NFL voided Payton's extension. He was still under contract for this year, but was suspended without pay. That is why the Saints believe they are owed at least 1 more year, because this year was taken from them.
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Old 12-07-2012   #49
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Of course Benson is scared. He knows there's a good reason Payton hasn't already signed that extension.
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Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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Hopefully, the building media hunt in NOLA will induce more inflammatory statements (real or otherwise) and poison the water there, compelling Sean to leave town for......
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I would think we are making a "good mistake." I have absolute confidence in Sean Payton. That isn't an issue. I honestly do believe Jason Garrett will in the near future be as good or better. I have my reasons for this.
Fair enough.

As far as my opinion is concerned, I still don't believe Garrett is the Offensive Coordinator that 2007 had most believing. I honestly believe a lot of the success was inspite of him and not because of him. Having said that, I also believe he has the make up of a good Head Coach...I just wish they would hire an OC w/a West Coast background. Granted, the Cowboys offense does not have all the ideal pieces with this current roster, particularly the offensive line, for that type of offense, but I do think Romo would be a better fit in that philosophy.
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Please come here Sean. We need you.

I new after the win last week everybody would start thinking false hopes again. This organization needs a leader in the worst way.
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Tampering with what? Payton isn't under contract. You can't tamper if he isn't under contract.

Just like you can't be fined for going over the salary cap when there isn't a salary cap! They'll make up something to hurt the Cowboys, they always do.
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I thought Payton could have no contact with the organization during his suspension.

Wouldn't that include negotiating and signing a contract?

Denim and hostile are correct.

The name Dallas Cowboys is being thrown out there as leverage and its not the first time that's been done.

I can't believe you all are falling for it.

IMO it's a looooong shot for Payton to be coaching anywhere but NO next year.
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I thought Payton could have no contact with the organization during his suspension.

Wouldn't that include negotiating and signing a contract?

Denim and hostile are correct.

The name Dallas Cowboys is being thrown out there as leverage and its not the first time that's been done.

I can't believe you all are falling for it.

IMO it's a looooong shot for Payton to be coaching anywhere but NO next year.
coulda sworn I saw an article that said Payton has had permission(or maybe it was his agent had the permission) to talk with Saints on his contract for couple months now
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Fair enough.

As far as my opinion is concerned, I still don't believe Garrett is the Offensive Coordinator that 2007 had most believing. I honestly believe a lot of the success was inspite of him and not because of him. Having said that, I also believe he has the make up of a good Head Coach...I just wish they would hire an OC w/a West Coast background. Granted, the Cowboys offense does not have all the ideal pieces with this current roster, particularly the offensive line, for that type of offense, but I do think Romo would be a better fit in that philosophy.
Doesn't make sense at all. Garrett's offenses has been playing well for much longer than just 2007. Heck, they won the division and a playoff game two seasons later, and Garrett was able to keep the offense intact when Romo went down the year after.

Garrett is becoming an excellent coach before our eyes. If anything, the defense has been a let-down in various seasons after '07, and I can't put that on Garrett at all.
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Doesn't make sense at all. Garrett's offenses has been playing well for much longer than just 2007. Heck, they won the division and a playoff game two seasons later, and Garrett was able to keep the offense intact when Romo went down the year after.

Garrett is becoming an excellent coach before our eyes. If anything, the defense has been a let-down in various seasons after '07, and I can't put that on Garrett at all.
You're high.
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Of course Benson is scared. He knows there's a good reason Payton hasn't already signed that extension.
The "good reason" is to become the highest paid coach of all time.

Benson is going to have to shell out $7+ million to keep his coach, and Payton is more aware of this than anyone on the planet.

I doubt Benson wants to see paper bags in the stands ever again. He'll get the deal done.
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You're high.
To be fair, when given a solid running game and offensive line, Garrett has produced top 10 offenses (2007, 2009, 2010 and 11th last season). But he does have questionable playcalling skills at times and obviously his clock issues as a head coach have been a major issue. But there's no question Garrett can produce a explosive offense given the right tools.
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don't want to do ... to achieve what they want to achieve."

Tom Landry.
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To be fair, when given a solid running game and offensive line, Garrett has produced top 10 offenses (2007, 2009, 2010 and 11th last season). But he does have questionable playcalling skills at times and obviously his clock issues as a head coach have been a major issue. But there's no question Garrett can produce a explosive offense given the right tools.


Excellent post, my friend. Good to see that some people here understand the game.
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