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Old 04-23-2005   #31
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ware, good pick
spears, good pick
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Old 04-23-2005   #32
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Anyone think we take anymore LBers day two or are we done?
If Tuck and/or Blackstock are still available when we pick in round four, I think you have to consider another DE/LB hybrid. Either would be among the best values available.
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Old 04-23-2005   #33
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I liked the draft. Three guys that allow the team to play 3-4 and 4-3. Spears and Burnett were good values at the positon they were drafted. Spears can play 3-4 end, 4-3 end and 4-3 tackle.

I give it an A- for now.
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Old 04-23-2005   #34
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Ware ranked #11th rated player on the Cbz's Old Dudes Board.
Well good work old man. I didn't have as much confidence in him as most but Parcells gave me a greater comfort level with that interview. And I don't think he would blow smoke.

Kudos to u and all the other Ware backers. Hope Parcells and ya'll r right.
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then this draft grade should be an "A". I am really perplexed as to why we would take Ware over Merriman when Merriman is a lot bigger, and Parcells is supposed to prefer size all other things being equal. I give this a B grade. I also question the pick in Round 2 with Dan Cody still on the board.
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I thought according to 90% of the people on this forum, that we are only able to judge a draft after 3 years?

Is this opinion from the 2002 draft?
It's true in reality... we can all specualte this "draft grade"... but only on paper...

It takes most players a good 3-4 years to adapt to the NFL and make an impact...

Any that produce before then... well... that's pure honey...

I see many here that are going on about this draft being a bust... well... I am here to tell you at this point... you haven't a CLUE yet...

Last year in chat I took a beating on the Julius pick... too many flew off the handle not knowing anything of him... the same ones now begrudgingly admit he was a good pick... but still... Rogers is a bust... Peterman is a bust... the list goes on...

I respectfully submit that you can grade the 2000 and 2001 drafts honestly at this point...

Anything you proport at this point for this draft... postive or negative... is merely opinion on your part... grading this draft npw is fruitless...
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Well good work old man. I didn't have as much confidence in him as most but Parcells gave me a greater comfort level with that interview. And I don't think he would blow smoke.

Kudos to u and all the other Ware backers. Hope Parcells and ya'll r right.

He was rated the best pass rusher in the draft, he has been compared to Haley, Suggs, and now BP said he reminded him of LT. Getting Spears at #20 was the icing on the cake. Ware will make us proud.....

The Kid had a great Senior Bowl.......

We now have our best DL rotation since 93.....
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It's true in reality... we can all specualte this "draft grade"... but only on paper...

It takes most players a good 3-4 years to adapt to the NFL and make an impact...

Any that produce before then... well... that's pure honey...

I see many here that are going on about this draft being a bust... well... I am here to tell you at this point... you haven't a CLUE yet...

Last year in chat I took a beating on the Julius pick... too many flew off the handle not knowing anything of him... the same ones now begrudgingly admit he was a good pick... but still... Rogers is a bust... Peterman is a bust... the list goes on...

I respectfully submit that you can grade the 2000 and 2001 drafts honestly at this point...

Anything you proport at this point for this draft... postive or negative... is merely opinion on your part... grading this draft npw is fruitless...
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It's true in reality... we can all specualte this "draft grade"... but only on paper...

It takes most players a good 3-4 years to adapt to the NFL and make an impact...

Any that produce before then... well... that's pure honey...

I see many here that are going on about this draft being a bust... well... I am here to tell you at this point... you haven't a CLUE yet...

Last year in chat I took a beating on the Julius pick... too many flew off the handle not knowing anything of him... the same ones now begrudgingly admit he was a good pick... but still... Rogers is a bust... Peterman is a bust... the list goes on...

I respectfully submit that you can grade the 2000 and 2001 drafts honestly at this point...

Anything you proport at this point for this draft... postive or negative... is merely opinion on your part... grading this draft npw is fruitless...
agreed

but u have to have opinions just to b able to draft. so it's ok to grade this one as long as u don't take it too seriously IMO.
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Trick, you're sig gif is pure genius.
Amen.....
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Old 04-23-2005   #42
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Trick, you're sig gif is pure genius.
Well... it started as just the pick I thought we would take... Ware... then I decided to have some fun with it by adding messages that would strike some chords among our members... starting with Matt ones in round 1... all in good fun of course... (brainpaint chided me in to it)...
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Round 1: Ware & Spears - Ware should instantly improves our pash rush. Spears gives us flexibility between the 4-3 and 3-4 and should be a very solid pro.

Round 2: Burnett - Unfortunaly I don't know alot about Burnett. But it appears he'll bring us size and depth at LB, something we need from losing Coakley and esspecially for running a 3-4 at times.

Round 3: Henson - I still think we got good value by using our 3rd on Henson. Parcells doesn't have the patience to start an inexperienced guy right now, but in a year or two he should get his chance. He's got skills.

I found it a very solid draft. Guess I'd give it an A-. Our defensive front 7 got a much needed overhaul today. Only reason I don't give it an A is we our offense hasn't gotten any help yet.
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Old 04-23-2005   #44
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agreed

but u have to have opinions just to b able to draft. so it's ok to grade this one as long as u don't take it too seriously IMO.
Exacly... and I am fine with that... it's the "bust" thing that grates on my nerves... it is impossible to determine at this point...
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You can't judge any draft until the players are either productive or stars or not on your team any more...still, everyone in the media and involved in mock drafts, etc, will give every team a grade...the question was simply to grade today's picks.

I'm assuming just about everyone will be happy and give it some grade between a B and A+ today....I gave it a B/B+....no opinion?
That's my grade. I think we are a solid B. I would have picked David Pollack instead of Ware which I think would have been the safer pick and the one most draft gurus and ESPN would have given us props for. I think Ware has some amazing speed and potential but he did play in a weak conference and his stats are not breathtaking by any means. I love the Spears pick though. That was a great pick!
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