Jason Garrett endorsed as Dallas Cowboys head coach

[Idgit]

"I just think he's done an outstanding job with this team,"

This is more than just 'what's he supposed to say.' This is going out on a limb for a guy you appreciate.

[junk]

Originally Posted by erod

7-9 might change Jerry's mind, but I don't expect a change. Jerry doesn't like to write big checks for head coaches.

But the heat is intense on Jerry, and this thing is getting stale if it doesn't start winning soon.

Truth be told, Garrett deserves three full years to fix this disaster of a roster he inherited.

Disaster of a roster?

He had 2 potential Hall of Famers (Ware/Witten)
He had a franchise QB.
He had a Pro Bowl WR and a first round WR (Dez)
He had a Pro Bowl NT (Ratliff)
He had Sean Lee
He had Anthony Spencer

He had a whole slew of the same players that make up the team today: Sensabaugh, Church, Spears, Hatcher, Free, etc.

I'll definitely agree that coaching in Dallas has its fair share of handicaps, but that roster was much better than what Parcells inherited in 2003.

[ajk23az]

The term "pro bowl player" is vastly overrated these days.

[anava]

Originally Posted by a_minimalist

I say he needs 5 years to really put together a body of work to judge. I don't think we can shore up all of our problems next year. It will take two more years to field a very very good team. We're almost there.

Well in 5 years he will have lost Romo, Witten and Ware. So I guess we should go ahead and just say he will need another 10 years. The 1st five to get the coaching aspect down and the next 5 to rebuild after he wasted the careers of some probowlers and HOFers. Sound about right?

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by junk

Disaster of a roster?

He had 2 potential Hall of Famers (Ware/Witten)
He had a franchise QB.
He had a Pro Bowl WR and a first round WR (Dez)
He had a Pro Bowl NT (Ratliff)
He had Sean Lee
He had Anthony Spencer

He had a whole slew of the same players that make up the team today: Sensabaugh, Church, Spears, Hatcher, Free, etc.

I'll definitely agree that coaching in Dallas has its fair share of handicaps, but that roster was much better than what Parcells inherited in 2003.

Yeah, said it many times but it's an absolute joke for people to claim that this team isn't talented. We're more than talented enough to win and win big.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Yeah, said it many times but it's an absolute joke for people to claim that this team isn't talented. We're more than talented enough to win and win big.

I agree. Now some of that talent is out of the lineup and there are areas that still need to be addressed. After last season I think many felt the secondary was a mess and that was addressed. OL still needs to be addressed. As for this season and the OL they have been banged up since pre season I don't think we have had the same 5 on the field for most of the season.

Dez is coming around and Murray looks like a good addition. There are things that still need to be fixed but there are positives that are taking place as well.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by ajk23az

The term "pro bowl player" is vastly overrated these days.

Just like Red Ginger...

[rickjameschinaclub]

Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett are two peas from the same pod. They have their jobs because of nepotism, not by showing anything of value. If Stephen wasn't family, Jerry should toss this guy into the wind as well.

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by anava

Well in 5 years he will have lost Romo, Witten and Ware. So I guess we should go ahead and just say he will need another 10 years. The 1st five to get the coaching aspect down and the next 5 to rebuild after he wasted the careers of some probowlers and HOFers. Sound about right?

Yeah, you nailed it.

The staunch supporters want to use this as some validation.

Just ask where this team is actually, tangibly, clearly improved and you'll see them scatter.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

Yeah, you nailed it.

The staunch supporters want to use this as some validation.

Just ask where this team is actually, tangibly, clearly improved and you'll see them scatter.

I think there are improvement some taking place before our eyes. Dez has gone from a guy people have claimed does not know the plays to really coming around as many hoped for. There have been big improvements on the defense unfortuantly 2 key players Lee and Carter are out. There are areas that still need to be addressed no doubt about it

[a_minimalist]

Originally Posted by anava

Well in 5 years he will have lost Romo, Witten and Ware. So I guess we should go ahead and just say he will need another 10 years. The 1st five to get the coaching aspect down and the next 5 to rebuild after he wasted the careers of some probowlers and HOFers. Sound about right?

If you took the time to actually read what I wrote instead of losing your marbles you'd understand that after this year 3 had past. He gets two more years to fully evaluate his body of work, in my book. I'm not even remotely surprised you missed that though since your group is the most reactionary group of fans on this board.

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I think there are improvement some taking place before our eyes. Dez has gone from a guy people have claimed does not know the plays to really coming around as many hoped for. There have been big improvements on the defense unfortuantly 2 key players Lee and Carter are out. There are areas that still need to be addressed no doubt about it

I think in the case of Bryant, you have a point. As an individual, he is improving.

But the team as a whole? A direct reflection of the head coach?

Is the offensive production better?

Is the defense better?

Is the overall record better?

I'd have to say no.

No tangible sign that 'the process' is delivering results.

Now folks can say whatever they like and see what they want to see, but the irrefutable facts don't show improvement.

[Redball Express]

Love the sig, Hostile.

[dmq]

I would like to give Jason a chance w/ a team that has a good OL/DL before ushering him out of town.

[Eric_Boyer]

we would be idiots to fire Garrett after his first full year with an off season program in place.

problem is a huge chunk of our fan base are idiots.