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Old 12-23-2012   #91
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Eli had a lucky *** throw against Pats.
Ah yes, the familiar refrain -- Eli is lucky....
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Ok, E-Lie is 2-0 in SB's.

Staubach won 2, but lost just as many.

So, is E-Lie better than Roger?
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Old 12-23-2012   #93
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Ah yes, the familiar refrain -- Eli is lucky....
The absurdity!

That play in his first SB where he was stumbling around and tripping over his own feet and threw up that prayer that was caught against the receiver's helmet wasnt lucky. No, not at all!
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Old 12-23-2012   #94
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Or, those who know Romo is so much better yet are absolutley sick of hearing how goofball Gomer Pyle E-Lie is better than Romo from Cowboys fans.
I don't hear anyone on this board saying Eli is better than Romo until someone starts a thread on it once again opening the debate. It's usually someone trying to justify why Romo is better that starts it not the other way around, at least from a Cowboys fans perspective, cause the Giants have two rings with Eli, they don't even care anymore.
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Old 12-23-2012   #95
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The absurdity!

That play in his first SB where he was stumbling around and tripping over his own feet and threw up that prayer that was caught against the receiver's helmet wasnt lucky. No, not at all!
I got it I got it.

When Romo plays well it is skill. When Eli plays well it is luck.
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I'm saying whether Romo is better or not doesn't matter.
I have no argument with someone who thinks it doesn't matter.
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I have no argument with someone who thinks it doesn't matter.
Right on bro.
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What makes a qb better than another is being better. Not super bowls. If you don agree let me ask:

Plunkett the equal to Staubach?

Bradshaw the best qb of all time?

Aikman the third or fourth qb of all time?

Roethlisberger better than Peyton?

Johnson better than Moon?

Dilfer the equal to Favre?

Use super bowls as your qb ranking system and you will end up with some screwy rankings .
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What makes a qb better than another is being better. Not super bowls. If you don agree let me ask:

Plunkett the equal to Staubach?

Bradshaw the best qb of all time?

Aikman the third or fourth qb of all time?

Roethlisberger better than Peyton?

Johnson better than Moon?

Dilfer the equal to Favre?

Use super bowls as your qb ranking system and you will end up with some screwy rankings .
You can do the exact same thing with passer rating.
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Read carefully it's "RECORD BREAKING" stats that matter. Romo will never even be in the top 10 passing yardage leaders. The only stat he has that's up there with the all-time greats is his career passer rating which is why so many FANS use it when arguing that he should be a current top 5 QB.
Roger Staubach wasn't in the top 10 in categories like that and is still considered one of the best QBs to play. He was #1 in passer rating at the time of his retirement.

Vinny Testeverde and Drew Bledsoe are in the top 10 in pass attempts, pass completions and yards. Kerry Collins is right up there as well with the exception that he is 12th in yards. That does not make any of them one of the best QBs in NFL history or better than Romo.
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You can do the exact same thing with passer rating.
Not when you go by yearly ranking.
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Read carefully it's "RECORD BREAKING" stats that matter. Romo will never even be in the top 10 passing yardage leaders. The only stat he has that's up there with the all-time greats is his career passer rating which is why so many FANS use it when arguing that he should be a current top 5 QB.
Like it or not, passer rating differential correlates with winning almost to the degree that scoring does.

It's a hugely important stat.
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You can do the exact same thing with passer rating.
Bull.
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Roger Staubach wasn't in the top 10 in categories like that and is still considered one of the best QBs to play. He was #1 in passer rating at the time of his retirement.

Vinny Testeverde and Drew Bledsoe are in the top 10 in pass attempts, pass completions and yards. Kerry Collins is right up there as well with the exception that he is 12th in yards. That does not make any of them one of the best QBs in NFL history or better than Romo.
But Roger's rings make any stats he didn't have not matter and the one's he did have were enhanced by his rings.
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Roger Staubach wasn't in the top 10 in categories like that and is still considered one of the best QBs to play. He was #1 in passer rating at the time of his retirement.
Staubach also ranked #1 in passer rating four different seasons.

People need to ignore the career passer ratings and start looking at the year-by-year rankings. Those are your HOF QB's.
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Dolphins 5
Broncos 4
Raiders 4
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