All you that want Joe D gone might get your wish

[slomoxn]

This board sometimes amazes me... I don't pay attention to coaches and all I know about them is what I read from the members on here. I became excited about Joe D coming here based on how many of the members here were saying good things about him. Well, here we are a few years later with a team that has underachieved on several fronts several times and everone is now no longer enamored with the special teams coach.

I understand that special teams can make a difference in a game but my issue is that the people on here will turn on a person associated with the Cowboys organization like a pack of rabid Dobermans if they don't live up to their expectations. Funny, I have seen this team fail on ALL teams and some say its the coaching and some say its the players. I don't know which one it is but it seems since some of the players have been released this team is finding an identity, a small one but it is a beginning.

I don't know who Dallas will get to replace him or whoever else they let go of or who just moves on but until this team learns how to win it doesn't matter who coaches because it will always be the same result.

[pavalley]

Originally Posted by slomoxn

This board sometimes amazes me... I don't pay attention to coaches and all I know about them is what I read from the members on here. I became excited about Joe D coming here based on how many of the members here were saying good things about him. Well, here we are a few years later with a team that has underachieved on several fronts several times and everone is now no longer enamored with the special teams coach.

I understand that special teams can make a difference in a game but my issue is that the people on here will turn on a person associated with the Cowboys organization like a pack of rabid Dobermans if they don't live up to their expectations. Funny, I have seen this team fail on ALL teams and some say its the coaching and some say its the players. I don't know which one it is but it seems since some of the players have been released this team is finding an identity, a small one but it is a beginning.

[View Full Quote]I don't know who Dallas will get to replace him or whoever else they let go of or who just moves on but until this team learns how to win it doesn't matter who coaches because it will always be the same result.

until they learn how to win ? have u watched the last 6 games ?

[cowboyschmps3]

Originally Posted by FiveRings

Even with it being Joe D which is humorous enough, how often do you see a ST coach make the jump directly to HC? I don't know how much I buy this

Harbaugh

[Bigdog]

Originally Posted by RS12

John Harbaugh.

you beat me to it. He was special teams coach before he got the HC with the Ravens. What about the Falcons HC? Wasn't he special teams coach that an HC position?

[Illini88228]

I have never seen a popular special teams coach. Special teams players just aren't as good as offensive and defensive players. This causes fans to be perpetually disappointed in special teams units.

But, no one likes it when the team persues players just for special teams, so that leaves no one to blame but the coach. That includes Avezzano. Sometimes people get nostalgic for a certain coach later, but it's just that, nostalgia.

[Idgit]

DeCamillis is a good coach, people, and he's proven it over the course of a long career.

Sometimes, it really is possible for a unit to underperform for a reason that's not entirely on the unit coach.

That said, I wouldn't be shocked to see DeCamillis exit gracefully after the season is over in a few weeks.

[rocyaice]

Yea I was Joe D's biggest critic earlier in the season because not only was his unit not contributing but it was simply COSTING us games. But since he's gotten better players at punt returner and on his special teams unit he's unit has done its job. Its been real good actually. I thought people were over the "Joe D" sucks attitude but I guess not.

[slomoxn]

Originally Posted by pavalley

until they learn how to win ? have u watched the last 6 games ?

Yes I have, I've also watched the last 16 years... This means nothing as they have done this before. I also watche 13-3 in 2007, didn't amount to much in the end.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by locked&loaded

maybe... but anyone that has played football knows almost all you need to know about special teams.

Lets be honest, special teams dont change that much. its the same thing over and over.

You really think that ST is super easy?

It must be the case then that, being that easy, it is all about the quality of the players you have then.

Do you see how you have totally defeated your own argument?

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by Idgit

DeCamillis is a good coach, people, and he's proven it over the course of a long career.

Sometimes, it really is possible for a unit to underperform for a reason that's not entirely on the unit coach.

That said, I wouldn't be shocked to see DeCamillis exit gracefully after the season is over in a few weeks.

Someone gets it.

The big issue with ST is that you have no real control over the unit. For example, Phillip Tanner was absolutely stinking on punt protection. However, with Murray out, he's playing and you just don't have the roster spots to replace him on that unit. So you are stuck with him. You coaching him over and over on the assignment and he screws it up multiple times resulting in terrible punts.

Oh yeah. Was Tanner inactive lately because of that? No, more likely it was because we now have 3 healthy RBs.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by Bigdog

you beat me to it. He was special teams coach before he got the HC with the Ravens. What about the Falcons HC? Wasn't he special teams coach that an HC position?

Belichick was a ST coach. He has talked about how that was important in learning how to deal with guys on both offense and defense (he started coaching offense, did ST, then moved to D). Marv Levy also was a ST coach.

[ddh33]

I think special teams have been better lately, with the exception of Moorman struggling with directional punting at times.