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12-31-2012
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#16
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Originally Posted by percyhoward
Right because the perfect complement to our 29th-ranked pass defense and our 31st-ranked running game would be a game manager with average stats.
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We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.
I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
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12-31-2012
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#17
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Originally Posted by Double
So what are the options..... everyone is ranting "trade Romo" "trade Rome" "get rid of Romo" but no one is coming up with who will be our QB if Romo is gone. Realistically, Romo still gives this team the best chance of success if he is provided a better team, a better run game, a better O-Line etc. All the "trade" and "get rid of" talk is simply a "shoot now, ask questions later" strategy. There has to be plans in place before we take such actions. So i ask again, we get rid of Romo and hand the reins to who?
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The reality is that it should've been addressed before now, but like Mr Jones, so many fans felt like it was foolish to draft a QB to groom because Romo would be "the guy" until he was 38 or so.
The whispers of wanting Dalton, and liking Kaepernick, sound really great, but as he has done so many times, Mr Jones didn't strike when he should've because he loved fools gold.
I've said all along that, of course, I wanted Mr. Romo to lead us to a championship, but he is what he is. Had we lost a hard fought game without any Romo mistakes, OK, but again with the game there to be had, he spit the bit at the worst possible moment, again. To say otherwise is folly.
As this year has clearly proven, if you have a dependable QB, you can go from the outhouse to the penthouse (Luck, RG3, Wilson) very quickly or get even stronger (P Manning, Kaepernick) than you were.
We have Romo.
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12-31-2012
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#18
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Originally Posted by Venger
Eddie, yours is an intelligent response, and I am taken aback by it 'round these parts...
I would reply that even if Romo was Johnny Unitas reborn, now is the time to prepare our next QB. If he isn't on the roster next year, we are going to pay a price down the road.
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Give me some names. The upcoming draft class is weak in QBs, and free agency isn't spilling out any viable alternatives either. That means we'd have to trade to acquire one, IMO. And there's only 1 young QB with workable qualities and the ability to extend plays that I'd be interested in trading for, but unfortunately, he's a backup for a division rival.
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12-31-2012
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#19
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Originally Posted by Wood
he is our Kordell Steward. A guy management fell in love with and ultimately held onto for too long. Costas comment after the game stunned me that Romo has lost 6 out of 7 elimination games. We can't escape that reality. Not sure what options are out there for Dallas but continuing with a Romo guided team is act of futility. I woke up yesterday with kid excitement because a tiny piece of me felt maybe Romo was over the hump. But we just need to accept who he is and make major changes regardless how painful they may be for short term.
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5 of those 6 loses have been road games. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL. Period.
Case in point, there's a sure-fire first ballot HOF QB playing in the NFL today that, if I am not mistaken,has only won twice in seven road elimination games.
Has Romo made mistakes in these games that put the team in a bad position? Yes. I'm not absolving him of his failures. I do not view them all as his fault. These are professional athletes he's playing against, not some peewee team. Who are paid to try and create these mistakes. And yesterday, they were successful. I know it's painful to say, but Washington did their job better than Dallas.
(And no, I am not comparing him to a HOF player as far as play on the field. Only using it to point out that road games are not easy)
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12-31-2012
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#20
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Waitin' on the 6th
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Originally Posted by Cowboyz88
As this year has clearly proven, if you have a dependable QB, you can go from the outhouse to the penthouse (Luck, RG3, Wilson) very quickly or get even stronger (P Manning, Kaepernick) than you were.
We have Romo.
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I am a Romo fan, but my youngest son and I said the same thing this morning.
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12-31-2012
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#21
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Originally Posted by Eddie
At least give us a guy we can have a future with.
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A game manager gets you a future of 5-11 seasons.
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12-31-2012
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#22
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Originally Posted by Boysathelm
And there's only 1 young QB with workable qualities and the ability to extend plays that I'd be interested in trading for, but unfortunately, he's a backup for a division rival.
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Of course, he was there for the taking, but our GM felt like Matt Johnson or Kyle Wilber were more valuable.
Time will tell, but Mr Jones' history on such decisions isn't good.
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12-31-2012
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#23
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Originally Posted by Boysathelm
Give me some names. The upcoming draft class is weak in QBs, and free agency isn't spilling out any viable alternatives either. That means we'd have to trade to acquire one, IMO. And there's only 1 young QB with workable qualities and the ability to extend plays that I'd be interested in trading for, but unfortunately, he's a backup for a division rival.
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Everyone is stating how the draft is weak in QB's. That's the same mentality that caused Jerry Jones to draft Quincy Carter ... because he felt there were no quality QB's in the upcoming drafts.
Staying with Romo may be inevitable. But that does not preclude us from preparing to move on. After wasting all those draft picks, why not take a shot at a QB? Kapernik (sp) was a 2nd rounder. Russell Wilson was a 3rd rounder. There are players to be found. We simply need to find them.
If we extend Romo, it will be another 4 years of futility. You can chalk up 20 years with a single playoff win. Nothing will change.
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12-31-2012
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#24
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Originally Posted by percyhoward
A game manager gets you a future of 5-11 seasons.
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... and Tony Romo gives us 4 more years of 8-8 seasons.
Then we can start the future of 5-11 seasons.
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12-31-2012
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#25
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Location: | West Palm Beach, |
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Originally Posted by Double
So what are the options..... everyone is ranting "trade Romo" "trade Rome" "get rid of Romo" but no one is coming up with who will be our QB if Romo is gone. Realistically, Romo still gives this team the best chance of success if he is provided a better team, a better run game, a better O-Line etc. All the "trade" and "get rid of" talk is simply a "shoot now, ask questions later" strategy. There has to be plans in place before we take such actions. So i ask again, we get rid of Romo and hand the reins to who?
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I think the easy answer is go with Orton for next year. Trade Romo in offseason. I would also release Ratliff and take the cap hit. It will be difficult year but sometimes you just need to rebuild and take your lumps. The eagles will be doing the same thing.
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12-31-2012
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#26
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Originally Posted by WV Cowboy
I am a Romo fan, but my youngest son and I said the same thing this morning.
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I've defended Romo until my teeth bled. I will no longer defend him.
Last night showed his true colors.
History will view him as just an after-thought.
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12-31-2012
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#27
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Originally Posted by Eddie
Everyone is stating how the draft is weak in QB's. That's the same mentality that caused Jerry Jones to draft Quincy Carter ... because he felt there were no quality QB's in the upcoming drafts.
Staying with Romo may be inevitable. But that does not preclude us from preparing to move on. After wasting all those draft picks, why not take a shot at a QB? Kapernik (sp) was a 2nd rounder. Russell Wilson was a 3rd rounder. There are players to be found. We simply need to find them.
If we extend Romo, it will be another 4 years of futility. You can chalk up 20 years with a single playoff win. Nothing will change.
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Well, another reason not to draft a QB this year is that we should first retrofit this team with mandatory upgrades. Fix the trenches in 2013, then bring in a legitimate stud in 2014 with an improved offensive unit waiting for him.
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12-31-2012
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#28
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Originally Posted by Wood
I think the easy answer is go with Orton for next year. Trade Romo in offseason. I would also release Ratliff and take the cap hit. It will be difficult year but sometimes you just need to rebuild and take your lumps. The eagles will be doing the same thing.
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I have no problem going with Orton. What's another non-playoff season?
If we can trade Romo for a premium pick, then definitely do it.
But for all the buffoonary that Jerry Jones believes himself to be a football maverick, he does not have the cajones to pull off such a trade. He will play it safe, and extend Tony Romo. When Romo's ready to call it a career, we will still have 1 single playoff win, and we'll be in a $20 million cap hole.
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12-31-2012
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#29
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Originally Posted by Cowboyz88
As this year has clearly proven, if you have a dependable QB, you can go from the outhouse to the penthouse (Luck, RG3, Wilson) very quickly or get even stronger (P Manning, Kaepernick) than you were.
We have Romo.
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Apart from P.Manning, i wouldnt annoint those rookies yet till they have done it for 3 or more years. One thing everyone forgets is that those teams (seattle, indy, san fran and washington) have better teams and running games around those rookies to take the load off their backs and to mask their mistakes. We counted on Romo to do everything all season. Surely we have to live with some mistakes when we count on him for everything. The way i see it... Tony Romo single-handedly delivered 7 wins this season. If the coaches and the rest of the team would have delivered 3 more wins... we would be in the playoffs.
Romo is 32, that has to be the one genuine reason for wanting him gone, performance wise, he has delivered.
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12-31-2012
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#30
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Originally Posted by Eddie
I have no problem going with Orton. What's another non-playoff season?
If we can trade Romo for a premium pick, then definitely do it.
But for all the buffoonary that Jerry Jones believes himself to be a football maverick, he does not have the cajones to pull off such a trade. He will play it safe, and extend Tony Romo. When Romo's ready to call it a career, we will still have 1 single playoff win, and we'll be in a $20 million cap hole.
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I think we are past point of getting premium pick for Romo. He is obviously mentally damaged goods. Every team in football now knows he short-circuits in elimination games. I think you can get a 3rd round pick ...maybe a 2nd round pick if a team is desperate (hello NY Jets).
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