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Old 12-31-2012   #106
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Was Jimmy Johnson a glorified cheerleader? He didn't call plays.
Your response implies that I consider that a negative thing. Not necessarily..
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I think it's a dumb move. It's a way that Jerry gets out of firing him and feeling bad about it, instead of just ridding himself of this mess that he created.

It will really show us what a lousy coach he really is, if he gets stripped of the only thing that got him the job in the first place.


We should hire a whole new staff and start over fresh. Let that staff make changes and get a new plan together.
Well said. That's exactly what it would be.
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We have been hiring a whole new coaching staff ever 3 years for the last 10-12 years and it hasn't netted us anything positive. Nothing.. To anyone that reads this post, please don't misconstrue it as me supporting Garrett or anything this mediocre leadership team has done to date. I'm pissed and tired of the excuses.. Excuses are just substitutes for perceived lack of intestinal fortitude. Grow some... That said, I believe the continuity of keeping Garrett as a "Mike Tomlin" HC with the addition of a real "OC" in Norv to work with Bill Callahan in raising this offense to peak efficiency levels would do wonders for the team we currently have in place.
I hate changing coaches as well but if the guy you have isn't any good then you have to make a change.

Wade Phillips did a better job then Jason.
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This is clearly speculation and it comes from Ian Rappaport, who makes Ed Werder look talented.
Bite your tongue nobody makes Werder look talented.
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I hate changing coaches as well but if the guy you have isn't any good then you to make a change.

Wade Phillips did a better job then Jason.
Well... I, sadly, just don't see a change happening so I have mentally prepared for the design that seats Garrett as a glorified cheerleader of men.
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We have been hiring a whole new coaching staff ever 3 years for the last 10-12 years and it hasn't netted us anything positive. Nothing.. To anyone that reads this post, please don't misconstrue it as me supporting Garrett or anything this mediocre leadership team has done to date. I'm pissed and tired of the excuses.. Excuses are just substitutes for perceived lack of intestinal fortitude. Grow some... That said, I believe the continuity of keeping Garrett as a "Mike Tomlin" HC with the addition of a real "OC" in Norv to work with Bill Callahan in raising this offense to peak efficiency levels would do wonders for the team we currently have in place.
well that is BS since BP had 4 years and wade was booted after the team quit on him.
Campo was 5-11 three straight years. Show me a team that would have gone for 4 of that.
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I hate changing coaches as well but if the guy you have isn't any good then you have to make a change.

Wade Phillips did a better job then Jason.
You're right about that and that's a fact. Nobody can argue that point.
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Well... I, sadly, just don't see a change happening so I have mentally prepared for the design that seats Garrett as a glorified cheerleader of men.
Just heard Stephen on the fan and he said he is staying, so status quo. Woo hoo I'm excited about next season already. Aren't you?
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Just heard Stephen on the fan and he said he is staying, so status quo. Woo hoo I'm excited about next season already. Aren't you?
That is what I have mentally prepared for. The rest of my fellow fans are clearly still wallowing in grief and some inane belief that Jerry won't be Jerry.
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Quite simply if they don't fix the trenches and develop some sort of pass rush. 8-8 again.
If you build it, he will run...
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Sounds more like guessing than anything else but if GM is half the GM he pretends to be, this should be a no brainer.
Should be, even if it a couple seasons late no brainer... Garrett is a jack of all trades but master of none, this will allow him to concentrate on HC duties and see if he can pull it off.
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That is what I have mentally prepared for. The rest of my fellow fans are clearly still wallowing in grief and some inane belief that Jerry won't be Jerry.
Oh I knew it would be the same as well, but you always wish. I think it's a huge mistake as with all of the firings today the HC market is going to be really thin and a lot of the coaches will be gone, ie. Grudens, Cowhers, Holmgrens Reid's, etc.

It will much like when BP dragged his feet and didn't decide to retire until after the coaching slew took place and we were left with the Wades, Norvs, Riveras of the world off the scrap heat.
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Incoming Norv in 3, 2, 1, ...
**** JJ 2013 Draft Board ****
1) RB ... gotta get a felix replacement
2) DB ... need to replace Jenkins
3) WR\TE ... need more offense
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Just heard Stephen on the fan and he said he is staying, so status quo. Woo hoo I'm excited about next season already. Aren't you?
Woo hoo! Wow..another 8-8 season next year if we're lucky.
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Well... I, sadly, just don't see a change happening so I have mentally prepared for the design that seats Garrett as a glorified cheerleader of men.
I don't either. I see more mediocrity and excuses too.
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