NFL: Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys should part ways after latest loss

[craig71]

Originally Posted by rcaldw

lol... Do you realize you can win an argument and lose the point? Do you realize that you can talk AROUND an issue and miss what is obvious?

Let me give you something obvious... try to follow. A guy who knows more than you, infinitely more than you, disagrees with you in your assessment of Romo. Got that? It is really that simple.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.


Craig

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by SultanOfSix

Oh brother.

I don't care about maybes or omissions. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, but it's also not evidence either. If you have evidence, you provide it. If you don't, then it's just an opinion based on an appeal to authority which I have already stated is a logical fallacy.

That is how you criticize the credibility of an opinion.

Originally Posted by rcaldw

lol... Do you realize you can win an argument and lose the point? Do you realize that you can talk AROUND an issue and miss what is obvious?

Let me give you something obvious... try to follow. A guy who knows more than you, infinitely more than you, disagrees with you in your assessment of Romo. Got that? It is really that simple.

This is what psuedo intellectuals do

[SultanOfSix]

Originally Posted by rcaldw

lol... Do you realize you can win an argument and lose the point? Do you realize that you can talk AROUND an issue and miss what is obvious?

Let me give you something obvious... try to follow. A guy who knows more than you, infinitely more than you, disagrees with you in your assessment of Romo. Got that? It is really that simple.

And two guys who know more than me and who have actually played the position and know what it takes to be a great QB, including the one in your avatar that I have quoted multiple times already, i.e. Aikman and Staubach don't agree with him, but agree with me.

Got it. It's really that simple.

Are your really this freaking stupid?

I'm done here.

[rcaldw]

Originally Posted by SultanOfSix

And two guys who know more than me and who have actually played the position and know what it takes to be a great QB, including the one in your avatar that I have quoted multiple times already, i.e. Aikman and Staubach don't agree with him, but agree with me.

Got it. It's really that simple.

Are your really this freaking stupid?

I leave you to your views! How about that? Can you simply say that you disagree with Gil Brandt? That would have saved you much typing

And I don't believe that freaking smart is posting links to wikipedia pages

And by the way... do you really think Staubach and Aikman are going to be anything but supportive of any starting Dallas Cowboys QB? Because I don't.

[WPBCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by craig71

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.


Craig

yep, this is the perfect example in this thread of

[burmafrd]

Jason Garret has developed how many QBs?

rcaldw refuses to admit that he has not developed any.

So therefore to be brutal his claims are hot air at best

[Cajuncowboy]

Originally Posted by SultanOfSix

Really?

Yeah, really. Do some research.

[rcaldw]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Jason Garret has developed how many QBs?

rcaldw refuses to admit that he has not developed any.

So therefore to be brutal his claims are hot air at best

First off, quote Brandt accurately. He didn't say DEVELOPING QB's. He said WORKING with QB's.

"I guess everything is always fixable. But I do think that Jason Garrett is pretty good at working with quarterbacks. If Garrett can't fix Romo, that's not a good sign."

Now, do you think Brandt has a right to have that opinion? Do you think he has seen anyone WORK with QB's in the past?

[187beatdown]

No thanks, I'm not ready to watch a 3-13 season.

[rcaldw]

Originally Posted by 187beatdown

No thanks, I'm not ready to watch a 3-13 season.

As I have already said... I don't make a move on Tony until we find someone better. But this 3-13 stuff is just silly. Last time Romo went down we played .500 football without him. That is a fact, 2010.

[DandyDon1722]

Originally Posted by rcaldw

I'm hesitant to share this, but I will. I have a son who is an excellent athlete. He played baseball in college. I love him, am very proud of him. He is a winner in every sense of the word. He is intelligent. He conducts himself with character and in a way that doesn't make me ashamed.

But my son has trouble keeping his emotions in check in certain situations. As much as I see him through a dad's eyes, I still can see it and have to acknowledge it. I've seen him come through in BIG situations before. I've seen him rise to the occasion and win games. But I have also seen him press, I've seen him allow other players to get him out of his game by their talking, and I've seen him struggle in certain situations as a result.

I've talked to him about this numerous times, but it is just his personality and makeup. He struggles to overcome it.

[View Full Quote]It is NOT that my son lacks competitive fire or is afraid. Just the opposite. I really believe he has trouble properly channeling what is a VERY competitive nature. It works against him, not for him.

I admit that I don't know Tony Romo. But I watch him play. I watch what I see as some highly emotional and a bit out of control moments. And I just wonder. I wonder if it is not the same thing I see in my son. And I'm just not sure it will ever change.

I agree with Brandt. I don't think he is a choker in the true sense of what that word would mean. I think he has trouble keeping HIMSELF in check. And it hurts him in some very big moments. As I've said before, the one word that I don't associate with Tony Romo in his playing style is CALM. He just isn't calm.

Really good insight and you might be right because you know it when you see it. I want Romo to succeed badly but last night he reverted under both mental and physical pressure to something he hadn't done in a long time. He threw off his back foot fading back. He had stopped doing that the past few seasons and began to develop that signature spin move to buy time but he didn't even try that on the last INT, which clearly wouldn't worked with the momentum the blitzer had coming at him.

The only thing I can relate it to is golf under pressure. No matter how hard you work to change your swing you will revert to the old one under intense pressure.

[Switz]

Had parcells stayed i wonder how different romos career would have been?

More so if it went this direction that it is today. My guess parcells would have made a change long before this. Fact is romo has only been in the playoffs 06, 07 and 09.

Facts done lie.

[jimmy40]

Originally Posted by rcaldw

Garrett just confirmed that the first interception was on Romo. High throw.

I blame Otree's momma for not having a 10' tall son.

[Kangaroo]

There is no more one more year either they trade him; are he is the QB for the next three-four years of not winning and he will be on his 4th coach. Romo is a coach killer period end of story. He helped kill Wade and he will Kill Jason if they stick with him next year and the next coach will be on his way out with coach killer at the end of his career.

[Fritsch_the_cat]

He also seemed like he was on edge all night. After his first interception, on a ball to Kevin Ogletree, the television cameras captured a contentious back-and-forth between the quarterback and his receiver. That would seem to indicate that Romo was pressing, that he almost didn't want to admit the interception was his fault, even though he did throw a poor ball.

That's always been my biggest concern about Romo, and what I think is his major fault, he presses at times and seems too nervous. I saw it last night, he even argued with Witten on the sidelines, and the last INT was Tony trying to force a square peg into a round hole, he was trying to make a play when he really didn't have to.

I thought Trent Dilfer made a good point (yes, I said Trent Dilfer made a good point) on ESPN last night, that Romo was the Phil Mickelson of football. Mickleson was known as the guy who couldn't win the big one and faltered when the heat was on. He said Mickleson finally owned up to it, decided he had to face his faults and find a way to fix them. He did and went on to win several majors, and Dilfer suggested that's what Romo needs to do.

So I don't agree with Gil and others who are saying that Romo is past his sell by date. I think he can fix his faults, as I don't think they are terminal. Plus a healthy defense, a commitment to the running game and an O-line that can punch their way out of a wet paper sack would go a long way also.

Romo just has to calm down and rely on his talent, of which he has a lot. And learn that on some plays he just has to live to fight another down. It's like the old auto racing adage, sometimes you have to slow down to go faster.